Is Acts.2:38 The One Plan Of Salvation ?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

There was a reason why those who drafted that fundamental doctrine wrote "full salvation". and not just salvation...

Tis true. When Elder Witherspoon wrote this it was a compromise. One person who was there said "this is a marriage not made in Heaven."

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Acts 1:4.

So the command you are talking about was the command given by Jesus for the apostles (and the other 100 or so that ended up in the Upper Room) to go to Jerusalem to wait for the outpouring of the Holy Ghost?

So... you see this as a command that we should all follow?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

So the command you are talking about was the command given by Jesus for the apostles (and the other 100 or so that ended up in the Upper Room) to go to Jerusalem to wait for the outpouring of the Holy Ghost?

So... you see this as a command that we should all follow?

Yes the command was to wait until they recieved the promise I think the command remains intact. Wait until. They recieved and now a world needs to recieve it.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes the command was to wait until they recieved the promise I think the command remains intact. Wait until. They recieved and now a world needs to recieve it.

Wanting to be fair enough to not accuse you of stating that we should all go to Jerusalem and wait there for the Holy Ghost... (And not really understanding what in the world this scripture has to do with the discussion anyway)... I ask...

So we should all not leave the town we are in until we receive the Holy Ghost?

I really wish that, when you discussed these things, you would feel a need to come on out and explain what you're actual point is. It always boils down to an elablorate dance of trying to coax from you exactly what you are trying to say.

Thus far... once you've attained stealth mode... I've never succeeded in getting you to just plainly state your point.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Wanting to be fair enough to not accuse you of stating that we should all go to Jerusalem and wait there for the Holy Ghost... (And not really understanding what in the world this scripture has to do with the discussion anyway)... I ask...

So we should all not leave the town we are in until we receive the Holy Ghost?

I really wish that, when you discussed these things, you would feel a need to come on out and explain what you're actual point is. It always boils down to an elablorate dance of trying to coax from you exactly what you are trying to say.

Thus far... once you've attained stealth mode... I've never succeeded in getting you to just plainly state your point.

This is a first to say I do not clearly state my point?
If you can get folks to agree with you on this I will certainly be perplexed.
I have stated clearly:
1. Everyone without exception is lost who has not obeyed Acts 2:38.
2. ALL Trinitarians are Lost.
3. Anyone who says folks are saved without preaching the necessity of obeyibg Acts 2:38 is an enemy of the cross.
4. Everyone without exception is commanded to wait on God until they recieve the HGB evidenced by speaking in tongues and without this expereince they are lost.
5. There is ONLY ONE faith-church that is the one that preaches the absolute necessity of obeying Acts 2:38 all others are false churches.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Amanah

hey, if we weren't so confused we wouldn't need a forum, look at the bright side lol

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is a first to say I do not clearly state my point?
If you can get folks to agree with you on this I will certainly be perplexed.
I have stated clearly:
1. Everyone without exception is lost who has not obeyed Acts 2:38.
2. ALL Trinitarians are Lost.
3. Anyone who says folks are saved without preaching the necessity of obeyibg Acts 2:38 is an enemy of the cross.
4. Everyone without exception is commanded to wait on God until they recieve the HGB evidenced by speaking in tongues and without this expereince they are lost.
5. There is ONLY ONE faith-church that is the one that preaches the absolute necessity of obeying Acts 2:38 all others are false churches.

Yes sir. We are all aware of those things. But, thankfully, you may have accidentally explained your thought.

So you are saying that Acts 1:4 is the basis for your hypothesis we are all commanded to wait on God until we receive the Holy Ghost.

Right?

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Yeah, that book God authored is not confusing at all.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yes the command was to wait until they recieved the promise I think the command remains intact. Wait until. They recieved and now a world needs to recieve it.

well, they were waiting to receive it because it had not been poured out yet right? today we don't have to "wait" to receive it, we should just go ahead and receive it, right?

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is a first to say I do not clearly state my point?
If you can get folks to agree with you on this I will certainly be perplexed.
I have stated clearly:
1. Everyone without exception is lost who has not obeyed Acts 2:38.
2. ALL Trinitarians are Lost.
3. Anyone who says folks are saved without preaching the necessity of obeyibg Acts 2:38 is an enemy of the cross.
4. Everyone without exception is commanded to wait on God until they recieve the HGB evidenced by speaking in tongues and without this expereince they are lost.
5. There is ONLY ONE faith-church that is the one that preaches the absolute necessity of obeying Acts 2:38 all others are false churches.

So, are you saying 99.9% of Humanity is going to boil in Hell? How about those who have followed your idea, but are in sin when they die? How about people who are confused about the Godhead or Salvation? What about the majority of the Human population who have never read a Bible? (BTW, your post is one of the most arrogant, depressing, and religiously bound statements I have EVER read in my life!)

I guarantee, if we critique your life we will find grave error in attitude, spirit, and flesh, and that even you aren’t worthy to enter those Pearly Gates, despite your understanding that supposedly supersedes others in the world of Faith and Scripture.

Bro Epley, you need an awakening to the genuine mercy of God. I'm beyond surprised to see an elderly man make such shallow and unproven statements. You, my friend, have no idea what happened(s) to people when they leave this life.

When a man stands upon Spectral Evidence to validate his facts, beware!!