The basic fundamental doctrine of this organization shall be the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
If it was agreed that this would be the basic fundamental doctrine (teaching)
at the merger, by both the PCI and the PAJC, then why all the disunity now!
And I know that there are those now that were in the UPC organization
that have evidently believed that their forefathers didn't believe what
has been claimed they believed.
I know that God is NOT the author of confusion, but confusion has been
brought into the camp! May our GREAT and ALMIGHTY GOD resolve this
dis-unity in whatever way HE would see fit, in Jesus Name!
Obedience to the gospel is the plan of salvation. It's a fine line, but I think there is a distinction. the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection. But then there are some who claim the GOSPEL is the all-encompassing package of EVERYTHING that is good news, not just the d, b and r. Maybe that is how we should say it.
This is how I have always viewed it - Everything is the Good News. It is the Gospel.
I think we are, many times, enthralled with terminology, i.e. plan of salvation, one-step, two-step, etc. LOL!
The Disciples walked and talked with Jesus and so, IMO, the symbolism and example of what He did wasn't a differentiation.
For instance, Romans 6:4 says, "buried with Him.....risen with Him..." They identified with the acts of Jesus Christ and I believe they never made a differentiation between "Gospel" and "plan of salvation". It doesn't appear to me it was ever done in the scriptures.
On a side note. I wanted to make another point regarding Romans and Colossians. While Romans 6:4 and Col 2:12 agree, Romans, on the point of resurrection, takes it further by explaining the benefit of having His Spirit today as well - "walking in newness of life." So, I think it addresses both - walking in newness of life and a bodily resurrection.
To the original point, you can read separate verses, but they all tie together into meaning the same thing. For instance, an extended example would be how they preach Jesus Christ (Col 1:4, "Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus"), but in Heb 6:1, it says, "Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God," Knowing they are one and the same, we see no separation or differentiation in the terminology.
John preaches a "baptism of repentance" (Mark 1:4; Acts 19:4). He doesn't make a complete distinction between the two, IMO. IWO, you can't have one without the other. He appears to combine them together as a necessity.
I think that we make allowance for distinction and differentiation that the Disciples never made. Just my thoughts.
The basic fundamental doctrine of this organization shall be the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
If it was agreed that this would be the basic fundamental doctrine (teaching)
at the merger, by both the PCI and the PAJC, then why all the disunity now!
And I know that there are those now that were in the UPC organization
that have evidently believed that their forefathers didn't believe what
has been claimed they believed.
I know that God is NOT the author of confusion, but confusion has been
brought into the camp! May our GREAT and ALMIGHTY GOD resolve this
dis-unity in whatever way HE would see fit, in Jesus Name!
Falla39
Amen! And the Word clarifies by saying, The Gospel and The Truth. I don't see the Disciples making allowances for other views. And, of course, that doesn't mean to argue, bicker and hate over it.
It seems, IMO, we try to change the view of the scriptures because we can't figure out all the ways of God and His dealings with all peoples. We simply never will and we shouldn't even try.
The basic fundamental doctrine of this organization shall be the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
If it was agreed that this would be the basic fundamental doctrine (teaching)
at the merger, by both the PCI and the PAJC, then why all the disunity now!
And I know that there are those now that were in the UPC organization
that have evidently believed that their forefathers didn't believe what
has been claimed they believed.
I know that God is NOT the author of confusion, but confusion has been
brought into the camp! May our GREAT and ALMIGHTY GOD resolve this
dis-unity in whatever way HE would see fit, in Jesus Name!
Falla39
Sis, I understand how you feel, but the bottom line is that there are far too many things going on in our Churches that leave people drowning with questions.
For instance, speaking in tongues. Our altars have turned into a circus, screaming, yelling, loud music, and begging for this gift. When people "speak" in tongues, the emotional disarray involved has launched people into the great quandary of doubt, wondering why we are NOT like the early Church regarding the Holy Ghost infilling.
We are so off base with this, and we have resorted to outlandish practices to uphold a Tradition that is dying in a lie.
The basic fundamental doctrine of this organization shall be the Bible standard of full salvation, which is repentance, baptism in water by immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the baptism of the Holy Ghost with the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
If it was agreed that this would be the basic fundamental doctrine (teaching)
at the merger, by both the PCI and the PAJC, then why all the disunity now!
And I know that there are those now that were in the UPC organization
that have evidently believed that their forefathers didn't believe what
has been claimed they believed.
I know that God is NOT the author of confusion, but confusion has been
brought into the camp! May our GREAT and ALMIGHTY GOD resolve this
dis-unity in whatever way HE would see fit, in Jesus Name!
Falla39
There was a reason why those who drafted that fundamental doctrine wrote "full salvation". and not just salvation...
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Sis, I understand how you feel, but the bottom line is that there are far too many things going on in our Churches that leave people drowning with questions.
For instance, speaking in tongues. Our altars have turned into a circus, screaming, yelling, loud music, and begging for this gift. When people "speak" in tongues, the emotional disarray involved has launched people into the great quandary of doubt, wondering why we are NOT like the early Church regarding the Holy Ghost infilling.
We are so off base with this, and we have resorted to outlandish practices to uphold a Tradition that is dying in a lie.
Agreed. I have put much study into this of late and I hope to start a thread on the subject soon.
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