__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
However, I don't mind looking "foolish" to the secular world by accident because of my religious convictions or choices. That's a different type of looking foolish. (If that's what you're referring to.)
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
However, I don't mind looking "foolish" to the secular world by accident because of my religious convictions or choices. That's a different type of looking foolish. (If that's what you're referring to.)
Honestly, watching LS preach is like watching the hoards of Obama supporters worshiping their idol a few short years ago as he campaigned. It is the same idolatry as some spoke in tongues at His mere presence while others spoke in tongues at His mere presence.
In the meantime the Holy Ghost HE gave me is the real thing.
Honestly, watching LS preach is like watching the hoards of Obama supporters worshiping their idol a few short years ago as he campaigned. It is the same idolatry as some spoke in tongues at His mere presence while others spoke in tongues at His mere presence.
In the meantime the Holy Ghost HE gave me is the real thing.
This kind of preacher exaggeration has been around forever. I still remember reading some medieval legends in Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror. The one that sticks to mind 35 years later was about how a consecrated host ended up on the ground. The ants came upon it and built a mini-cathedral around it because it was holy and the body of Christ. You know people believed it then, but I still remember being boggled.
Thing is, we live in an era of easily portable Internet, where anyone with an iPhone or Android can just pull it out of their purse or pocket and let their fingers do the walking. I don't know how many people would do that, but it's possible. I suspect that if I had heard that statement in the flesh, I would have just put it off to preacher exaggeration--and then discount everything else that came out of his mouth after that.
This is the bottom line for me. If you're not going to be truthful about something that can be verified (i.e., the number of wives bin Laden had) then why should anyone trust you on something that has to be taken as a matter of faith?
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life." I don't think he intended his followers to tell tall tales to impress people or make converts.
Honestly, watching LS preach is like watching the hoards of Obama supporters worshiping their idol a few short years ago as he campaigned. It is the same idolatry as some spoke in tongues at His mere presence while others spoke in tongues at His mere presence.
In the meantime the Holy Ghost HE gave me is the real thing.
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Originally Posted by houston
huh?
You know His=Obama just as His=God (to some). I remember Obama giving his speech at the Democrats convention in 2004 and the people having absolute orgasms (and literally speaking gibberish) when he came out. I see something nearly similar when certain apostolic rock stars get up to speak.
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Re: Bin Laden's wives obey Acts 238???
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
You know His=Obama just as His=God (to some). I remember Obama giving his speech at the Democrats convention in 2004 and the people having absolute orgasms (and literally speaking gibberish) when he came out. I see something nearly similar when certain apostolic rock stars get up to speak.
I still don't understand what you are saying?????
Are you saying you "personally" seen people speak in gidderish and have "absolute orgasms"???
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I have been a lot of places and seen a lot of things in the world of Christian followers.. I just have a few questions, CAN I THINK OUT LOUD?
Are you saying you "personally" seen people speak in gidderish and have "absolute orgasms"???
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Hyperbole anyone?
Youtube "Chris Matthews thrill."
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road