aren't you supposed to be out there getting tattooed in the brain with some sharp stick?
go do that and perhaps you will be able to think straighter.
Tattooed in the brain?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
I hope everyone here is honest enough to acknowledge that every time someone says "God said" or "God commanded", that is really a shortened way of saying "Someone said that God said" or "Someone said that God commanded". Every single time. You do know that, right?
Instead of me trying to guess at what you are trying to say, I'm going to ask you to clarify.
So, please could you clarify the above comment?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
I don't know how to explain that to a 23 year old that doesn't have much of a Christian foundation.
Yes, that's correct.
For him to understand he needs first of all to be born again and be under proper bible teaching.
There's no use banging a bible on an unbelievers head.
Instead of me trying to guess at what you are trying to say, I'm going to ask you to clarify.
So, please could you clarify the above comment?
Sure.
Every single claim that God has said something is made by a human. I.e., a man (or woman) claims to have hears God say something -- whether by an audible voice, or a dream, or a still small voice. Some of those claims were written down thousands of years ago. Some of those written claims are believed by many people today. So when you say "God said xyz", what you really mean is "Someone claimed that God said xyz, and I believe him."
By the way, whether such claims are true or not is irrelevant to my statement. So it you agree with it, it's not an admission that you might be wrong (or more to the point, that the one who made the original claim might be wrong), so there's no reason to disagree, really. (But some will anyway, I expect. )
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Every single claim that God has said something is made by a human. I.e., a man (or woman) claims to have hears God say something -- whether by an audible voice, or a dream, or a still small voice. Some of those claims were written down thousands of years ago. Some of those written claims are believed by many people today. So when you say "God said xyz", what you really mean is "Someone claimed that God said xyz, and I believe him."
By the way, whether such claims are true or not is irrelevant to my statement. So it you agree with it, it's not an admission that you might be wrong (or more to the point, that the one who made the original claim might be wrong), so there's no reason to disagree, really. (But some will anyway, I expect. )
Last time I checked, the Bible claimed it was written by inspiration of the Holy Ghost.
I.o.w. it's the Word of God.
But of course you will disagree.
Every single claim that God has said something is made by a human. I.e., a man (or woman) claims to have hears God say something -- whether by an audible voice, or a dream, or a still small voice. Some of those claims were written down thousands of years ago. Some of those written claims are believed by many people today. So when you say "God said xyz", what you really mean is "Someone claimed that God said xyz, and I believe him."
By the way, whether such claims are true or not is irrelevant to my statement. So it you agree with it, it's not an admission that you might be wrong (or more to the point, that the one who made the original claim might be wrong), so there's no reason to disagree, really. (But some will anyway, I expect. )
OK Timmy... how would YOU like God to communicate to human beings? What would be the preferred method of communication that you would like to see between God and humanity? What would it take for you to believe that God had indeed spoken?
Every single claim that God has said something is made by a human. I.e., a man (or woman) claims to have hears God say something -- whether by an audible voice, or a dream, or a still small voice. Some of those claims were written down thousands of years ago. Some of those written claims are believed by many people today. So when you say "God said xyz", what you really mean is "Someone claimed that God said xyz, and I believe him."
By the way, whether such claims are true or not is irrelevant to my statement. So it you agree with it, it's not an admission that you might be wrong (or more to the point, that the one who made the original claim might be wrong), so there's no reason to disagree, really. (But some will anyway, I expect. )
Timmy, so I guess if you weren't physically there during the Battle of Grunwald, Gettysburg, the Japanese invasion of Nanking, The Wounded Knee Massacre of 1890, all the way to what really did happen on 9/11 any (or all) the reports could be bogus? Speeches through history, conversations that were supposedly recorded. Are they just that, supposed conversations? Could all the eye witnesses be embellishing, or flat out liars? We who study history do it as an investigator, constantly looking through the primary sources, and checking out information from a plethora of different scholars concerning the different points in history. Yet, the Bible isn't just about history, but it is the history of a God and His covenant people. The Book like many other sacred books aren't meant for everyone. Because the Bible's contents are only for the sincere devoted follower, and those who aren't sincere, the Bible is a book filled with blank pages.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
OK Timmy... how would YOU like God to communicate to human beings? What would be the preferred method of communication that you would like to see between God and humanity? What would it take for you to believe that God had indeed spoken?
There comes a time in every mortals life when we will all find out. Sadly we won't be able to come back and have anyone write a book about it, or make it into a movie. All proof will be able to be examined on that day. I just hope everyone makes the right life choices for that trip. Won't be any "lol" smiles to post on that day.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
None of you are qualified to talk about this subject from an intellectual position. I'm willing to venture and say that none of you have ever spoken to someone who is homosexual and got to know them personally. I'm appalled at the bigotry in this thread.
There comes a time in every mortals life when we will all find out. Sadly we won't be able to come back and have anyone write a book about it, or make it into a movie. All proof will be able to be examined on that day. I just hope everyone makes the right life choices for that trip. Won't be any "lol" smiles to post on that day.
So true. We all have a meeting scheduled with our Maker.
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