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Originally Posted by Socialite
Seems simple enough to me. He was rejoicing in his Spirit that the Father had mercifully withheld the spiritual understand of the Word but revealed them to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.
No mystery here. The elite in His day rejected the very beautiful teachings of Jesus which held great spiritual depth. The wise and prudent of his day were deaf, dumb and blind. They could neither see or hear. Unable to both see and hear, they were consequently dumb. One prophet called them dumb dogs that cannot bark.
Are you ever confused or WHAT?
It seems that I am wasting my time with you. Have you read anything that I've said?
Did I say anything about the "dumb" people who hear what the Spirit is saying?
GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!
Did I say anything about an academic test? I'm beginning you are so far out in lalala land as to be totally untethered from reality.
Wrong again.
What is begun in the Spirit must continue in the Spirit. All the education in the world will not do what a moment in the presence of God will do for a man in but a few words when His understanding is opened.
The thing that Jesus was ultimately getting at was that the wise and prudent are hindered by a Spirit of pride which prevents them from true wisdom. True wisdom comes from humility of mind and not from scholastic achievement being nothing more than accumulations of facts and some degree of rationale in assimilating abstract in the natural. This is what Jesus was referring to the wise and the prudent of this world. Pride prevents. Nevertheless, like the proverbial camel through the eye of the needle, all things are possible with God.
I really don't see much need in following this line of discussion any further, we are going nowhere very rapidly.
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I recall you playing this "I didn't say that" game a long time ago (like your first post), only to later contradict yourself.
So, in 1-2 sentences, come out say what you need to say. I don't have the Spirit to interpret your words.
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The thing that Jesus was ultimately getting at was that the wise and prudent are hindered by a Spirit of pride which prevents them from true wisdom. True wisdom comes from humility of mind and not from scholastic achievement being nothing more than accumulations of facts and some degree of rationale in assimilating abstract in the natural.
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Yes, pride gets in the way. It's simply not true to pretend Jesus is "ultimately getting at the point" that education makes a person more proud. That's as pure an example of eisegesis as I've heard. Let me guess, you have no formal graduate degree? (That would make sense to say the things you do)
I've never been more convinced that the more learned a person gets, the more humble they are about what is true. It's the ignorant that are red-faced know-it-all's. Jesus was ULTIMATELY talking to an audience with the context of a very nasty rebuke happening just before that, and much of it having to do with unbelief. Undress and unpack what he's saying with the context of the verse and chapter, not your own preconceived "egghead" opinions about learned (and Spirit-filled) people.
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