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Originally Posted by Socialite
Possibly one of the Universalists shades... but probably more like many humans who ponder these deep and reflective things.
We don't have to "put Ghandi in hell" to proclaim Jesus as the only Way. Honestly, though I think there's much damage Universalism does to watering down the consistency of God's Story and his Rescue through Christ, I don't believe it's a Gospel issue, or a heresy that is damnable. Rob Bell, if indeed a Universalist (read that link I posted because I don't think that's the case), is still pointing people to the Cross, to Jesus for salvation and is declaring Him as their "way out." How one views our final states, to me, is not absolute necessity. Though, I'd definitely contend that the idea is false, heresy and not the complete picture of God's character.
IOW, you're still my brother... and the fact is, I have those same ponderings and questions sometimes  |
I read the article until he said he hadn't read the whole book, and I dropped it there, thinking, "And you're writing all this about him without knowing everything?" That gripes me. It's like all the stuff all over the internet about Bill Hybels apologizing for the entire philosophy he's operated by. I mean, it's all over the place as absolute fact, and he absolutely never did it!! Never! I don't understand these guys that want to write hit pieces with all, and sometimes without any, of the information.
But Social, I'll admit to fiercely struggling with some of these things. Did God really design a system whereby nearly all of the humanity he created would be doomed to burn in torment endlessly? I have a hard time with that. I mean, He's God and He can do what He wants because He's God, but that's really tough for me. And I don't buy explanations that Dave posted..."Just think how hard it is for God."
And it gets even worse if you use the 3-step, Steve Epley, OldPaths formula. Now we're talking about only, maybe, a few hundred thousand in all history!!!
I struggle with Crakjak's view, I struggle with NotForSale's view, who says there is no hell, and I struggle with the Orthodox view. I guess I just struggle!
I follow Jesus, trust in Him and his saving grace, and believe that God will handle eternity with justice and grace.
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