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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Narcissism means love of self; Coonskinner was pulling that from the idea that a homosexual man is attracted to his own physical image rather than the opposite sex. (likewise with a lesbian)
The fact that sin leaves people hurt and confused is par for the sinful course; that doesn't mean the initial choices aren't any less selfish or self-serving. Sin is only pleasurable temporarily; then it becomes painful and destructive. In the beginning, it can be pleasurable--which is why human beings choose sin over and over and have since the beginning of time.
Of course sin leaves people hurting and confused. That's one of the reasons I so strongly object to any religious teaching that allows people to remain in sin and still be saved--because sin is universally destructive--even if you are told that God is okay with it and you feel some sort of acceptance in your religious circle. The sin itself will still eat away at your spirit, mind and body, and you will still find yourself hurt and confused in the end. Shame on any minister who seeks to allow people to remain in their sins and feel good about themselves spiritually. That man is seeking to allow people to remain in destruction instead of being an overcomer.
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Leadership should always teach to leave sin, and to walk in righteousness.
What is being argued is that folks are born into sin or not, this world is sinful and broken, and yes, we all are born into it.
I have mentioned many times that our pastor has mentored seven gay men over the last 20 years. Five of them have married, ladies, of course, and have kids, some of them still struggled with same sex sin. However they have made the decision to trust God, and have confessed and continue to be overcomers. One of the remaining two has lived celibate for over sixteen years, still has the feelings but is an overcomer!!! Two of the married guys are on staff full time at the church, the church has walked with them, never condoning, yet full of mercy and love, in which the guys have flourished.
Unfortunate, the church at large knows too well how to condemn and very little about how to live in community with flawed and struggling humans. Of course, it requires honesty, and just as with the "crooked straights" one must desire to walk in righteousness.
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