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Originally Posted by n david
It helps looking at the context of which I was responding to; it wasn't the initial post, but the subsequent post I was commenting on.
Hebrews 11 says "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.....Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." The writer of Hebrews let it be known that it takes faith to understand, and then used the first verse of the first book of the Bible as an example. The reason I said "in order to understand" is because if you don't have faith or believe in the Word of God as being authoritative, you cannot understand the simple matter of creation, much less the plan of salvation.
It's not because your doctrine or theology differs from mine; it's because you have stated you do not believe the Bible is the authoritative word of God, but merely a nice collection of writings. How can anyone truly understand spiritual matters if they don't believe in the Bible. It's impossible.
The difference is, in the majority of cases, they still believe the Bible is the word of God. Especially with regards to various denominations and debates over scripture.
I never said the discussion was pointless; those are your words, not mine.
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But discussion
is pointless, if you are unable to help her understand it. But sure, if your advice is first for her to "believe the Bible is the Word of God", and then she will understand (not that I agree that that is the correct word, as opposed to "agree"

), sure. I suppose that if she takes that advice, discussion would be less "pointless". But unnecessary, perhaps?
Interesting, isn't it, how there is still so much disagreement and arguing even among people who
do accept the Bible as the Word of God, and
do have the Holy Spirit leading them into all truth? (Way more so than among those who don't, I'd say!

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