Islamic Prayers at the Vatican

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Originally Posted by Luke

There is no finger pointing going on here rather there is a loving warning that proclaims the truth that there is only one way to heaven and that way is Jesus. Are you saying that you believe that there are other ways?

No; I'm saying that i know, for sure, as sure as i am about our salvation, that there are 'other' ways. They are the same way. They must follow spiritually what you are regurgitating literally. I don't mean that to be a put-down, so please take it at face value. That is a 'book' knowing, that we are given.

Originally Posted by Luke

The first of those chareacter istics is sorrow for sin the repentance which is followed up by love of the truth.

There it is--imo, just find some less loaded words for a couple of those terms, as they have been corrupted now, and regurgitate that. I doubt we are qualified to even discuss Christianity, frankly. I'm sure we're not. Every time we post, you or me, someone in hell laughs, and someone in heaven shakes their head.

Originally Posted by Luke

There are NO scriptures that say we cannot know God.

Who can know God? seems pretty clear to me, Luke. And i am led to say "wait 'til you meet Christ!" um, which may not be for you, but in general. He is a picture on the wall to most here; Someone we give a little nod to every now and then; and the door to our introduction of Him having been blocked, most will never progress past the "What should i be doing for God" stage, and those that do, who are led into 'ministry,' are mostly regressing rather than progressing.

i don't mean to imply that these do not love the idea of God; or even that they are not genuinely seeking a closer walk--but that ones early training is extremely difficult to overcome; and that training is being overseen by the world.