"in the Spirit"

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Originally Posted by Esaias

So now praying in tongues is an action of the human spirit and NOT by the Spirit of God????

No wonder Pentecost is in the mess it's in nowadays.

Ask Paul, he's the one who said it, Esaias. You cannot see any HUMAN SPIRIT involved? The truth is OUR HUMAN SPIRITS are born again of God's Spirit, Esaias.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Human spirits are born again of God's Spirit, just like human flesh of a child is born from human mother's flesh.

1 Corinthians 6:16-17 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. (17) But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

And the HUMAN SPIRIT like the most holy place, is where the SPIRITUAL works of God's SPIRIT occur in us and work outwardly.

If you cannot read Paul's words without refusing to accept that he said it was HIS HUMAN SPIRIT praying then that is evidence Pentecost is messed up.

1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.


Of course God's Spirit is involved and tongues would not occur if it wasn't. But His Spirit works with OUR SPIRITS and it occurs. We could not speak in tongues if God's Spirit was not united to our human spirits.

Why do you reject what Paul said here? If you don't reject his words, then how in the world can you say it was not his spirit praying when he said it was? Are you unaware that a man is spirit, soul and body? 1 Thess 5:23?