i find little to argue with there; yet it begs the question why we don't abate physical death by redemption?
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Originally Posted by Lafon
Sean, Paul's words of Ephesians 2:2 & 5, that is, the phrases "who were dead in trespasses and sins" and "we were dead in sins," are what we refer to as "figures of speech," a word or phrase for one thing that is used to refer to another thing in order to show or suggest that they are similar.
If Paul was stating that we were truly "DEAD," then what possible way would the likes of you and I ever had to even come to an understanding of our lost condition or to petition God for forgiveness? Are the dead capable of thought, speech, or the ability to speak? Of course not! So we see we were NOT literally "dead" in our sins, else we would have been rendered utterly incapable of even knowing that we were lost sinners! |
ok, i maintain that the spiritually dead are dead to God; yet even those are still obviously capable of thought and speech, and may desire the Spirit. My reasoning here is that God has power over mortal life, but grants choice in the spiritual life, iow physical death is meaningless to God--and possibly our preoccupation with it is an indicator of this--and Spiritual death--which we only see poorly, if at all--is all that matters to God.
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