Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Again, I know you got a weird way of thinking of the word. But tell me what this verse does to your thoughts and how it forms your conclusions about who is saved and lost. And why.


i do not form conclusions about who is saved or lost, Mike. Ever. That is extremely presumptuous, and i think we have amply demonstrated that your conclusions were tripe. You can't even define saved or lost to universal satisfaction, and i can't either. For every verse you point to that "defines" salvation, i can provide another that gives a different perspective. Doesn't this tell you something?

Obviously yes, it does. it tells you that everyone else is lost, and we will all agree with you if we just focus in on this or that one little verse, and of course accept your interpretation of it. Gee, i wonder how we all became in thrall to the state with our eyes wide open? Prolly just another coincidence.

You consistently miss my point. Likely due to your preconception. my point is how do you take those verses and apply them to your opinion about the general issue of salvation? Don't you apply those verses to anything you believe to form your beliefs?