Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

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Originally Posted by mfblume

You consistently miss my point. Likely due to your preconception. my point is how do you take those verses and apply them to your opinion about the general issue of salvation? Don't you apply those verses to anything you believe to form your beliefs?

ok, my apologies, i do try to read what you mean and not what you say, but you can hardly blame me for having this preconception here, i think. How do i take those verses about salvation? I would consider them in the light of all verses about salvation, even the ones that don't fit very well with it, and notice that there are many that deal with human interactions, while the Pauline ones seem to be mostly advanced legal type stuff that i might best apply to my understanding, after accepting the obviously simpler statements about salvation, which common sense tells me can be understood first.

But of course Paul was the first thing i heard in OP, and i think i was grappling with predestination on day 2 and i have yet to hear "just love God and your neighbor, and you'll be fine," except by a couple of OG Pents, retired pastors with no signed agenda to adhere to any longer, and of course that was one-on-one, no witnesses. You might be insisting on the 1/10th here, and ignoring the 9/10ths, I'm thinkin.