How Do You Ride a Horse, a Cloud, and a Throne?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I never said that. I said the text in Acts 1 is not apocalyptic imagery but descriptive narrative.



I never said the OT does not prophesy of a time when the Lord would bring forth an apocalyptic event. And yes, I am sure that I never said such a thing. So (one) explanation is that you have completely misunderstood my words.

The problem is the passage in Acts 1 is an eyewitness account of an historical happening, and not an apocalyptic vision nor a prophetic monologue using OT imagery.

I spoke about the passage, ie the "text" in Acts 1. I said of that passage, that is to say, concerning that text, that it is an eyewitness account of an historical happening, ie a descriptive narrative. I said concerning that text that the text is not an apocalyptic vision - nobody was in a trance or seeing symbolic visions, there is nothing in the text to suggest any such thing. I said the particular text under consideration is not a prophetic monologue using OT imagery, which is obvious as it is simply Luke recording what the disciples experienced.

I never said the return of Jesus would not be an apocalyptic event, I did not say the OT does not describe apocalyptic events. I said the text in Acts 1 is not apocalyptic imagery, symbolic visions, or prophetic monologue using OT symbolism, but instead is simple descriptive narrative.

But you cannot separate the "coming" from what is to happen during that coming. Thus, the "manner" applies to what would happen during that time.