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Old 12-01-2017, 03:07 PM
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Re: How Do You Ride a Horse, a Cloud, and a Throne

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So having one's sins forgiven and being redeemed by the work of Christ would save people from the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome? I'm not understanding how, IF the promised judgment was for THAT generation at THAT time, and the proferred salvation and deliverance was for THAT generation at THAT time, and all had respect to the coming AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem by Rome, how that has anything whatsoever to do with any of us today, or how it would have anything to do with anyone outside of Jerusalem (or perhaps Judea) back then?

I'll have to chew on this for awhile. Maybe I'm not making myself clear, so maybe you are misunderstanding what issue I'm having with this. Or maybe I'm just not understanding what you are saying.

I'll think about this and be back.
Maybe I could understand your confusion better if you'd explain what you believe is said in Acts 2:40?

Obeying Acts 2:38 is not the end of salvation, but rather the beginning. The Great Commission is to teach, to convert, and to teach all things. In Acts 2, Peter taught, he gave the message for conversion, and then he went further and taught more things.

Peter told the Jews that day to obey Acts 2:38 for salvation. He also said they should save themselves from a judgment coming against their untoward generation. So, their sins were saved through obeying Acts 2:38. This salvation also placed them in the group that would miss that coming judgment, since they--as believers--would obey what Jesus taught in Luke 21:20.

But how is being Born Again also involved with "saving yourself"? Only Jesus can forgive sins, so how were they to "save yourselves"? I believe obeying Acts 2:38 saves a person from their sins. But this "save yourselves" is about those then obeying what Jesus said to do when they saw that coming judgment. No unbelieving Jew would obey Jesus, so they would be the ones who would suffer the (then) coming judgment of that untoward generation.

I never said that rebellious generation had anything to do with us today. They wouldn't have anything to do with us today any more than the 3,000 baptized has anything to do with us today. The Bible is not written to us but for us. Peter's message was spoken to the listeners that day, but his message is for all mankind, as confirmed in Acts 2:39. Thus, the 3,000 were saved that day by obeying Acts 2:38, and everyone since that time until now is saved by obeying that same Acts 2:38 message. Today, reading 3,000 were baptized after hearing what Peter preached helps us see the necessity of Acts 2:38 for salvation. But, that same Acts 2 message included Peter delivering a warning to the people that day that they should escape the judgment coming against their crooked generation. Since it was a warning to that audience, we know that judgment is now past and not for us today.
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