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Old 11-06-2007, 09:48 PM
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I was in that "crowd" for most of my life, Bro. I know whereof I speak. And what I said about the "Tulsa Summit" stands until one of these "coordinators" comes out and speaks plainly about the agenda.

Why don't you hold their feet to the fire? What do they want to see accomplished?

And as a P.S. - you are correct about "libs and mods" "hurting other people's lives." However in the Apostolic movement and the UPCI specifically, you will find that it has tended to be the "cons" and "UC's" that have caused most of the pain over the years. A Google search will demonstrate that.
Google is going to bring up what? spiritual abuse? no bone to pick there and a very, very realiable source. rr, if you google him, has been convicted of breaking and entering, kidnapping, and is called an out-and-out liar in news reports by the FBI and ATF who he claims, or claimed at one time, to help with Waco.

Hold their feet to the fire? A group of men are discussing and planning and trying to figure out what they are going to do. Why don't you wait a few weeks and see what they want to accomplish? What do you even care for? You are tearing down some good men and I don't really think, from reading your comments, that you know what you are talking about.

I grew up in a church that was UPC and was taken out of the organization over loosening standards and my life and ministry was harmed by a "lib." That's my personal experience.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply to this nonsense. Of course, I'm a harsh whatever.
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