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Originally Posted by Antipas
Anyone who has ever worked with the handicapped or the mentally retarded knows that genetics and biology can be a factor in violent and/or irrational or psychotic behavior. This isn’t always a “choice” nor is it a “spirit”. It’s a part of our fallen human biological condition. Down through the centuries the church has believed that nearly every physiological ailment (for example the palsy) was the result of an unclean spirit. But today we in the church know that some cases are spiritual in nature and others are biological. Why couldn’t this also be truth of this condition? Certainly some may have “chosen” this behavior later in life as a result of abuse or unchecked lust (as Paul condemns). However, there may also be those who have struggled with this since they were the smallest of children. These individuals may indeed be bound by their biology and in need of more compassion that we are offering.
The Bible never addresses how we are to deal with those who have been this way from birth or their earliest years. For these individuals this isn’t a “lust” it’s a condition. Paul’s condemnation was aimed at those of the same gender who burned in lust one toward another and abandoned their previous natural interests as a result of their pagan godlessness. But what about a person who was never attracted to the opposite gender? Are these individuals to be viewed as abominations or people struggling with a condition?
My point is that there may be a distinction between those who give themselves over to homosexual lust for the sake of pleasure and those who have never felt heterosexual. No doubt one would even take advantage of the other. I feel saddened at how this can open up the one struggling with this to abuse. For example I’ve heard stories about how a young man might open up to his pastor about this struggle he’s had all his life…and then the pastor seeks to take advantage of him by propositioning the young man. Who’s the sinner? The young man who has never felt straight and is battling this; r the pastor who has been straight for most of his life, is married, but now preys upon this person struggling with this condition?
There may be a difference. I don’t have the answers…I’m just asking the questions.
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Sorry dude! There is ZERO conclusive evidence that there is a genetic or biological predisposition. You are making an argument from a "straw man." It is something that is against God's creative order for His creative purpose.
I have dealt with homosexuals and EVERY single one I have dealt with, it was a learned behavior. It may have been learned very young in the absence of a male figure in their lives but it was learned.
Their same sex attraction may come from a heart "wound" a disappointment or just being around females more than males or the opposite if they are female. Yes, it is a choice to follow the perversion of God's created order or walk the other direction. NO sin that we have become accustomed to is easy to leave behind. There must be a deliverance and a dependence.
My predisposition to become an alcohol/drug addict was learned behavior from my Mother. I learned it, perfected it, got delivered from it and now have a dependency on the King of Kings. I was, but now I am not.
The only way one is chained to their sin is to believe that is who they are. One says, "Oh, well, I'm just attracted to little boys. I can't help myself. I shouldn't be held accountable because that is just who I am. It's not my fault. The internet made me that way. My uncle Ernie made me this way."
On and on and on the excuses for sin go. The excuse is irrelevant. The cure is the same. There is NO chain which Jesus can't break!!!!!!
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