
03-30-2009, 09:22 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Originally Posted by Jason
HOW ABOUT LETTING ME EXPLAIN WHAT I BELIEVE-TK?
I stand behind everything I said, I do believe the three chapters to be speaking of a future fulfillment. I believe that some things happened in those days to the apostles. That does not mean that they will not be a part of the "end times" for example-persecution. They faced it, and Christians will again face it, and already are in many countries. I don't think you can insert a gap into those chapters, but like I posted earlier, I am still studying these chapters. Unlike some others, I am not on here claiming infallibility. I'm not on here condemning partial preterists like bro. blume, because they still are expecting a second coming of Christ. Full preterisms denial of this is the main issue.
What I am making a 100% plain, concrete, for certain argument for is A FUTURE COMING OF CHRIST TO THIS EARTH Full Preterism specifically denies this point, Futurism and Partial PReterism specifically Affim. It's not hard. You guys say Christ isn't coming back, I am challenging EB or AFP1996 to debate it. People may call you guys alot of things, but stupid should not be one of them. This is simple-Is Christ coming again or not? That is the question. One single question on which hangs all of FP or all of futurism, why not debate it?
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Like I said, Jason does NOT believe there is a GAP in ANY of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. That is what he said AGAIN. No matter how you explain it, if he doesn't believe the fulfillment of these chapters has already happened, and if he does not believe there are any gaps, then he believes THEY ARE ALL FOR A FUTURE TIME.
Bro. Epley, that is what I have told you over and over. He just showed you that I was telling the truth.
Bro. Jason, I mean no offense by this, but since you are admittedly still studying Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 to see what you believe about them, would you please tell how you are then prepared to debate the subject you're proposing? Regardless what time period you believe these chapters were written for, each are in fact talking about Jesus' coming in judgment.
So, if you don't know for sure what you believe, how are you going to debate someone else about what they believe?
Jason, thank you for your clarification and for your honesty.
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