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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Man believes WHEN he obeys the gospel.
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Went to grab a quick lunch....
Again, this wasn't the question I asked....
I'll ask it another way:
Is man condemned by God for the sins remitted at Calvary or does Scripture speak of something else for which he is condemned?
The point is this:
There is but one thing which brings condemnation on mankind today.... UNBELIEF. Those who do not believe the Gospel of Christ are condemned
(John 3:18; John 3:36John 16:8-9).
IMPORTANT: The Gospel is not a PLAN FOR remission, it is NEWS OF remission.
Steve, you've admitted that "the Gospel (Good News)" is Good News concerning the historic event of sin remission which took place prior to the resurrection, yet while you accept that the Gospel is Good News of a historic remission you go on to redefine the Gospel as a PLAN FOR remission.
Having done this you then say that man doesn't 'believe' the Gospel until he 'follows' what you have redefined as the Gospel
plan for remission. To 'believe' or 'obey' your gospel is to participate in the new 'gospel plan.'
This is nonsense and
another gospel because the actual Gospel is not a step plan to be followed, but rather an accomplished event of history to be acknowledged and accepted by a trusting heart. It is a report to be obediently believed (
Romans 10:16).
Sin remission WAS ENACTED at Calvary and THAT is Good News to be accepted by a heart of faith. Sin remission is not ENACTED AGAIN when one trusts in the historic remission of the Cross, nor is it ENACTED AGAIN when one participates in baptism which is an act of faith dramatizing what Christ did on the Cross and our resurrection to new life in him.
To 'obey' the Gospel is to believe the report God gives of his Son (
Romans 10:16). To believe the report is to set to seal that God is true (
John 3:33). To reject the report in unbelief is to call God a liar (
1John 5:10) and to invite his condemnation and wrath (
John 3:18;
John 3:36;
John 16:8-9).
We are called to respond to Good News not to another PLAN said to perform that which the Good News proclaims as having been accomplished. I fear you have redefined the Gospel to mean something other than the Good News it proclaims.
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