Where is the five fold ministry?

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by pastorrick1959

so drummer you didnt say after u got out of the org. how you then now believe about it? as far as the callings and gifts..

I believe that the gifts of the spirit include what we call the five fold ministry. And that the authority in the church comes primarily from the elders that are chosen by the church. And this is a plural leadership. That when we come to worship the leadership includes those that lead the service to set the tone that the gifts can move and be used by God. That if God has set pastors they are not given the authority that so many of then take upon thenselves. The spirit of God should be allowed to direct each and every one in the depth of thier walk with God not directed from the pulpit.

I have heard the phrase "I have been set as a watchman on the wall" too many time, and this does not give any man the right to set standard as he sees fit. Even if he thinks he is doing what God directs. I know I am not explaining this very well I will try to take some time and get things together in my heart better. I am just now in the stage of seeing this. I just know that I don't believe that God give any one man the authority taken by any pastor whether he is a good pastor or not.