Originally Posted by notofworks
Wow. Thanks for sharing your heart.
I felt silly asking about the shower, but that seems to be the main objection early on in this thread. I think there are those that view gays as animals who jump everything that passes by and I think that stereotype is ridiculous. I'm sure you're familiar with the, "Be careful around him, he's gay" attitude.
Oh yes. But what some people do not understand is that there all sorts of gays just like there are all sorts of straights. We come in all sorts of shapes, colors and personalities. Unfortunetly we gays are our own worst enemy sometimes. Many people associate gays with what they see happening in the annual pride parades. I assure you that that picture is not at all accurate of a lot of the gay population. Some of us are even republicans! LOL
For example, a friend of ours who occasionally comes to visit, is gay. He's been a friend for decades. But when certain people found out he was staying in our home, the phone rang with warnings for us to be careful about letting our boys around him. I was shocked by it all...I'm a bit naive, I suppose.
Most gays are not attracted to children. Really. Just like most straights are not attracted to children. I have never met a gay who was intersted in children. The thought revolts me.
I don't say that to drudge up bad memories, but to call attention to the preconceived ideals many have about certain groups of people.
When you said, "You are very good at knowing who is family and who is not", do you mean your....slang term...."Gaydar"? I've been told by gay people they can "spot their own". I've been assured over and over not to worry about being "hit on", so I think a lot of guys that worry about another man jumping them are victims of a stereotype that has been passed around.
Yes, I was referring to "Gaydar". We can tell, usually with a single glance, who is gay, or family, and who is not. Trust me, if you are straight you usually have have nothing to worry about from us gays. Don't get me wrong, some of us may flirt but it would only be only if we can detect some ambivalence about you or we know you pretty well and it's done in a teasing tone and setting.
I, for one, would have no interest in hitting on a straight person. Just as you would have no interest in hitting on someone of your gender. Think about it.
I have never talked to a gay person who says they would choose what they are. I'm sure there are those who would, but I haven't met them yet. The bias can be ugly. Who would want that?
Yep. Now throw in being raised Pentecostal.
You don't need to convince me that you were born that way. I agree with you. And yes, there are many that have suffered sexual abuse as a child which can lead to a mental illness, but certainly, to issue a blanket statement that all gays are mentally ill would not be an accurate statement, true?
I believe that saying all gays are mentally ill is not an accurate statement. I know that some here will never belive it. They are entitled to their opinion.
Let me ask you this....you say it's not possible to change.
I never said change was impossible, I said that is was impossible for me to change.
Some ex-gays have said that they were successful in changing. Good for them. I sincerely hope they did and are happy. I suspect though that many of them have just repressed their desires and are masquerading as straight. As an example of what I speak, google John Paulk who was involved with Exodus and Focus on the Family. There are many, many more examples of ex-gays trying and failing to lead straight lives.
Do I believe change is possible? Yes, because all things are possible with God. But sometimes God says 'No'.
What about those who would suggest that it is possible to overcome while not totally changing? I'm speaking of those who would suggest that, just as a heterosexual married man may have temptations to sleep with another woman, he does not, and instead, continues to be with his wife. Do you feel that has any legitimacy?
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