You got it! NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD! Flesh wants to glory in obedient works, as though AT LEAST TWO CENTS' worth of OUR works gets us into heaven, as though Jesus did not pay the whole shot but for two cents.
The Jews made the grave error of going about to establish their own righteousness, instead of accepting the righteousness from God. This idea of righteousness being justice so misses the mark and is bait for legalism. Righteousness is right standing with God. And THAT WAS A GIFT! How is justice a free gift?
LOL you cannot even see that his person is OSAS and teaches forensic justification by a imputed view of righteousness. GOD CANNOT SEE THEM SINNING! sheesh
Yes but you must endure to be considered "faithFUL" and considered righteous.
No, we must endure to retain the righteousness given to us as a gift. Not to be considered righteous. Being IN CHRIST considers us righteous. Disobedience removes us from Christ.
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You have a righteous standing because you walk by faith to his leading which IS RIGHTEOUS.
It is a righteous act but is not righteous in and of itself.
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The righteousness of God is the law upon the heart not a forensic imputation of position.
Wrong. Dead wrong. There is the dangerous TWO CENTS' WORTH OF FLESH.
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Do I still sin? Yes!, but the blood of Jesus cleanses me from my sins. Should I remain sin and claim grace, absolutely not.
Amen.
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The blood only cleanses if you walk as he walks which is a path of righteousness by the Spirit and do his commandments. 1 John 1:7
The path of righteousness is not a path you create by good works, but a path provided to you by HIS WORK which YOU STAY ON by obedience.
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Ys if you follow the Spirit but not if you follow the flesh.
And following the Spirit is allowing HIS POWER to cause you to do good.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
LOL you cannot even see that his person is OSAS and teaches forensic justification by a imputed view of righteousness. GOD CANNOT SEE THEM SINNING! sheesh
Keep on twisting what we are saying. Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
No such thing as OSAS. The two cents' guys who think their good deeds pay for heaven will say any dependence upon the blood alone for righteousness is osas, and yet we blow that distortion away and say we can lose our salvation by disobedience.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Keep on twisting what we are saying. Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
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Does that apply only when we intentionally sin and know we are sinning?
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No, we must endure to retain the righteousness given to us as a gift. Not to be considered righteous. Being IN CHRIST considers us righteous. Disobedience removes us from Christ.
yeah and that would be walking and continually receiving his cleansing toward us.
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It is a righteous act but is not righteous in and of itself.
hello... I have told you many times. Justice is two part reality. We respond to context to receive. I walk he cleanses. Why because the humble receive.
1John 1:7 is clear. Those that walk receive his justice/righteousness toward them.
John 15:4-15 is clear those that do as he did have his consideration of position. We are as because we do as.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
We are as because we do as.
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Wrong. Dead wrong. There is the dangerous TWO CENTS' WORTH OF FLESH.
so the flesh is the SPIRIT? ROFL
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Amen.
not my quote didn't mean to get you excited. lol
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The path of righteousness is not a path you create by good works, but a path provided to you by HIS WORK which YOU STAY ON by obedience.
of course it is a path provided by his work. His work allowed the Spirit ot dwell in us. Which LEADS you to obey and do.
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And following the Spirit is allowing HIS POWER to cause you to do good.
I doubt that concerning the post I was pointing to as that is not what "they" said. You IMO don't believe what they said r you ar confused.
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Disobedience and sin removes us from being in Christ. This nonsense about God not seeing us sin is crazy. As soon as we sin and fail to repent, we are no longer in Christ!
read much of what they said?
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No such thing as OSAS. The two cents' guys who think their good deeds pay for heaven will say any dependence upon the blood alone for righteousness is osas, and yet we blow that distortion away and say we can lose our salvation by disobedience.
oh of course... I believe my two cents paid my way.
Question y'all. Since OSAS and OSNAS has been brought into the discussion, how does the following scripture play into either OSAS and OSNAS
Eph 1:13
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
In other words, if a born again individual is sealed by God, can the person become unsealed?
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Question y'all. Since OSAS and OSNAS has been brought into the discussion, how does the following scripture play into either OSAS and OSNAS
Eph 1:13
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
In other words, if a born again individual is sealed by God, can the person become unsealed?
My belief has nothing to do with the question. It's simple. How do you understand Eph 1:13-14?
I could give you 2 options to your question:
1. Yes, OSAS that is Christ saves a person to the uttermost.
2. No OSAS, a person who has been following the Lord can willing choose to reject him by intentionally living a sinful life and not repenting of their sinful ways.
See, neither those options change my question, so how do you see Eph 1:13-14?
Thanks
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
My belief has nothing to do with the question. It's simple. How do you understand Eph 1:13-14?
I could give you 2 options to your question:
1. Yes, OSAS that is Christ saves a person to the uttermost.
2. No OSAS, a person who has been following the Lord can willing choose to reject him by intentionally living a sinful life and not repenting of their sinful ways.
See, neither those options change my question, so how do you see Eph 1:13-14?
Thanks
I was simply asking you a question and clickd one of your posts to ask a question. Again do you believe in OSAS? Mike really wants to know. lol I am also confused by your 1) and 2)
OH and OSAS = ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED which simply means you cannot lose eternal life.
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