Quite frankly Narrow, it depends on the meaning poured into the word "persons".
If they mean persons similar to human persons then it's problematic. If it means three personas as in "three simultaneous modes of existence" then we have agreement.
Hoovie, would you affirm or deny the following statement?
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To clarify, to say that each member of the Trinity is a ‘person’ does not mean that God the Father or God the Spirit became human beings. Rather, it means that each member of the Trinity thinks, acts, feels, speaks, and relates because they are persons and not impersonal forces. Further, each member of the Trinity is equally God, which means that they share all the divine attributes, such as eternality, omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence.*
*Thomas F. Torrance, The Christian Doctrine of God: One Being Three Persons, 112-67.
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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
Hoovie, would you affirm or deny the following statement?
*Thomas F. Torrance, The Christian Doctrine of God: One Being Three Persons, 112-67.
I would have difficulty affirming that. I have aversion to "members of the Trinity" language, even though I agree all three have divine attributes and are truly God Himself. Also, while we know Father and Son communicated I am not so sure I would say the Holy Spirit related/felt/communicated with, or apart from the Father and Son. The incarnation it'self is what brought rise to the Father/son communicating/relating.
One person of God, and One Jesus Christ, who in addition to being the One God could/did also feel,relate and speak as a man - because he was.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Also, while we know Father and Son communicated I am not so sure I would say the Holy Spirit related/felt/communicated with, or apart from the Father and Son.
Well, we know from Scripture that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. Who else would his intercessions be directed to? This seems like communication among members of the Trinity.
Also, the Holy Spirit can be grieved when we sin. That is a feeling or emotion.
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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
Well, we know from Scripture that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. Who else would his intercessions be directed to? This seems like communication among members of the Trinity.
Also, the Holy Spirit can be grieved when we sin. That is a feeling or emotion.
True. I didn't mean to say the Holy Spirit has no emotion at all.
Just that they may not be separate from the feelings of the Father.
Due to the humanity of the Son, he had feelings and experiences that were not truly known outside the flesh. Perhaps even the indwelling Holy Spirit's intercession is in view of the departed Christ - hence drawing from the incarnation??
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Perhaps even the indwelling Holy Spirit's intercession is in view of the departed Christ - hence drawing from the incarnation??
Okay, but still...
Intercession implies more than one person.
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"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." - C.S. Lewis
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Gal 3:20 (KJV)
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:20 (AMP)
Now a go-between (intermediary) has to do with and implies more than one party [there can be no mediator with just one person]. Yet God is [only] one Person [and He was the sole party in giving that promise to Abraham.
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I don't think so at all. In human experience it does of course.
God incarnate, through willing submission, can intercede and communicate with God transcendent and beyond humanity.
I believe there is One Person of God.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
I don't think so at all. In human experience it does of course.
God incarnate, through willing submission, can intercede and communicate with God transcendent and beyond humanity.
I believe there is One Person of God.
Hoovie sees it!
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Hybrid Mode
