Yes, Jesus knows but his followers also know. What I mean by knowing is that there is an assurance in my heart. This is something that cannot be explained. It's something that you just know. Furthermore, a real born again person's live will not contradict walking in the Spirit. He/she will manifest the fruit of the Spirit too.
In matt 7, they claimed to know Jesus, but Jesus says he NEVER knew them. On the other hand in John 10, Jesus says he knows his sheep and his sheep know him. So yes, if you are born again, you will most definitely know.
Jn 10:14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
The Mormons might claim they "know", but their doctrine CONTRADICTS the very words of Jesus. Now, I know there are doctrinal arguments even among born again believers (which ought to be respectful, but usually not..lol). However, after a mormon tried to convert, I know for sure that their doctrine is just plain wrong.
Some of what I remember off the top of my head:
1 They believe that the book of mormon is ANOTHER TESTAMENT of Christ.
I But the bible NEVER spoke of another testament coming.
2 They believe that Jesus came to the Americas to spread the gospel. )The one who spoke to me said, it is even possible that Jesus also went to Africa to spread the gospel). According to him, Jesus did this to spread the gospel to the world so that not only Jerusalem had it's environs had the gospel.
II But that is direct CONTRADICTION to Jesus telling his disciples to go into ALL the WORLD. Why would Jesus tell his disciples to go into ALL the world and then he (Jesus) now decides to quickly run ahead of them?
3. Joseph smith saw God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
III The bible says NO MAN can see God. Only in the person of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the visible image of God
4. The Aaronic priesthood is continued and John the baptist anointed Joseph Smith
IV Seriously? That is Just funny. The Aaronic priesthood was done away with. Jesus' priesthood superceded that of Aaron
These are just the few I can remember right now. I don't doubt that the mormons are kind natured people, respectful and all that, but they have some weird doctrines that ADD to the FINISHED work of Christ.
At the end of the day, religion tries to ADD or REMOVE (most cases, add) to the WORK of Christ.
It's either Jesus Christ alone or nothing at all.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
OK, so what we have is the truly saved, and the deluded. They both "know" they are saved, but only the truly saved are correct in that assurance, and the deluded are wrong. But they don't know they're wrong. They themselves would say exactly what you say, that they know that they know that they know.
I think I'll stand by my claim. Sorry.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
OK, so what we have is the truly saved, and the deluded. They both "know" they are saved, but only the truly saved are correct in that assurance, and the deluded are wrong. But they don't know they're wrong. They themselves would say exactly what you say, that they know that they know that they know.
Yes, but then, in about five minutes, they'll say something that makes it obvious to you, too, that they are fooling themselves...
OK, so what we have is the truly saved, and the deluded. They both "know" they are saved, but only the truly saved are correct in that assurance, and the deluded are wrong. But they don't know they're wrong. They themselves would say exactly what you say, that they know that they know that they know.
I think I'll stand by my claim. Sorry.
That's an assumption you're making. They claim to know, but their heart is not at peace. Now, they will NOT say it out rightly that they are not right with God. But deep down in their heart, they are not at peace with God. Of course, they will claim to people that they are saved.
i John 3
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
The thing is those who are saved and those who are not saved both claim to be saved. Those who are not saved (who claim to be saved), however are not at peace with God, but they just claim to be saved for various reasons:
Some to look religious
some were raised in church, so to be in the "in crowd" (their heart condemns them though).
So there's no delusion involved at all, just hypocrisy on the side of those who claim to be saved while their heart really does condemn them.
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
That's an assumption you're making. They claim to know, but their heart is not at peace. Now, they will NOT say it out rightly that they are not right with God. But deep down in their heart, they are not at peace with God. Of course, they will claim to people that they are saved.
i John 3
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
The thing is those who are saved and those who are not saved both claim to be saved. Those who are not saved (who claim to be saved), however are not at peace with God, but they just claim to be saved for various reasons:
Some to look religious
some were raised in church, so to be in the "in crowd" (their heart condemns them though).
So there's no delusion involved at all, just hypocrisy on the side of those who claim to be saved while their heart really does condemn them.
I have read this verse time and time again, but I am not sure that this verse means what you are saying it means.
The phrase, "God is greater than our heart" is not clear to me.
Please explain your confidence in your interpretation of this scripture in your application to this subject.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
I have read this verse time and time again, but I am not sure that this verse means what you are saying it means.
The phrase, "God is greater than our heart" is not clear to me.
Please explain your confidence in your interpretation of this scripture in your application to this subject.
"God is greater than our heart" IOW, if your heart condemns you, then you are obviously not in right standing before God. That's what it's saying.
For more context: I John 3
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
Notice it says God is greater than our hearts and God knows all things. Your heart knows the things that you have done. People around you might not know the things you do. So if you're heart condemns you, then you better know that God is not pleased with you, for God is greater than our hearts. God knows more than your heart even does.
Now, on the flip side, when you approach God, and your heart does not condemn you, then you have confidence towards God.
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
"God is greater than our heart" IOW, if your heart condemns you, then you are obviously not in right standing before God. That's what it's saying.
For more context: I John 3
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
Notice it says God is greater than our hearts and God knows all things. Your heart knows the things that you have done. People around you might not know the things you do. So if you're heart condemns you, then you better know that God is not pleased with you, for God is greater than our hearts. God knows more than your heart even does.
Now, on the flip side, when you approach God, and your heart does not condemn you, then you have confidence towards God.
Thank you.
I appreciate this.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
"God is greater than our heart" IOW, if your heart condemns you, then you are obviously not in right standing before God. That's what it's saying.
For more context: I John 3
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
Notice it says God is greater than our hearts and God knows all things. Your heart knows the things that you have done. People around you might not know the things you do. So if you're heart condemns you, then you better know that God is not pleased with you, for God is greater than our hearts. God knows more than your heart even does.
Now, on the flip side, when you approach God, and your heart does not condemn you, then you have confidence towards God.
Question:
How does conviction work into your interpretation of this scripture?
I imagine that if a believer sins and feels conviction for that sin, they are where they need to be. This has been my personal experience.
On the flip side, if that believer sins and doesn't feel conviction, I would wonder about their salvation.
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"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
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