Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by jfrog
I would argue against incest more along the lines of the social relationships allowing it destroys. Is my cousin trying to befriend me because he/she wants something else? Does your aunt/uncle want you over to try to seduce you? And all these situations can just as much apply to adults.
Let's focus here...
How can you deny consenting adults the right to form a marriage with whoever they want?
Are you saying the state can restrict this?
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Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
Let's focus here...
How can you deny consenting adults the right to form a marriage with whoever they want?
Are you saying the state can restrict this?
Let's focus: our country already allows gays to form whatever kind of union they want to--and throw all the white-dressed parties they want right along with it. They just can't have a marriage license and all the tax benefits that supposedly allows.
So once again: This discussion is NOT about preventing the homosexual act--unlike the prevention of incest or public nudity. It's about a piece of paper and tax filing status.
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Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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This discussion is NOT about preventing the homosexual act--unlike the prevention of incest or public nudity. It's about a piece of paper and tax filing status.
No it's not.
It's about what God says is right or wrong.
Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
No it's not.
It's about what God says is right or wrong.
No, it's not. If it was about what God says is right or wrong, then homosexuality would be illegal. Oh, and so would adultery, fornication, viewing porn on a computer--maybe even telling dirty jokes. Let's start throwing people in jail for all of the above. And while we're slippery sloping, if you even THINK about having sex with a woman who isn't your wife, then go turn yourself in to the local police station--as a matter of principle.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
No, it's not. If it was about what God says is right or wrong, then homosexuality would be illegal. Oh, and so would adultery, fornication, viewing porn on a computer--maybe even telling dirty jokes. Let's start throwing people in jail for all of the above. And while we're slippery sloping, if you even THINK about having sex with a woman who isn't your wife, then go turn yourself in to the local police station--as a matter of principle.
....or a homosexual desire that your unwilling to act on because you know its wrong. But then if the desire is JUST as wrong as the act, you may as well go all the way (according to some).
Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
No, it's not. If it was about what God says is right or wrong, then homosexuality would be illegal. Oh, and so would adultery, fornication, viewing porn on a computer--maybe even telling dirty jokes. Let's start throwing people in jail for all of the above. And while we're slippery sloping, if you even THINK about having sex with a woman who isn't your wife, then go turn yourself in to the local police station--as a matter of principle.
Legal does not mean it's right.
The Bible teaches what is right or wrong, not the government.
Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
Legal does not mean it's right.
The Bible teaches what is right or wrong, not the government.
Legal does not mean it's right? You don't say....
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
No, it's not. If it was about what God says is right or wrong, then homosexuality would be illegal. Oh, and so would adultery, fornication, viewing porn on a computer--maybe even telling dirty jokes. Let's start throwing people in jail for all of the above. And while we're slippery sloping, if you even THINK about having sex with a woman who isn't your wife, then go turn yourself in to the local police station--as a matter of principle.
And envy. Make that illegal, too.
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Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by Timmy
And envy. Make that illegal, too.
Yes, and also dishonoring your parents. No more bratty behavior!!!
...I guess I need to consider a name change.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Let's focus: our country already allows gays to form whatever kind of union they want to--and throw all the white-dressed parties they want right along with it. They just can't have a marriage license and all the tax benefits that supposedly allows.
So once again: This discussion is NOT about preventing the homosexual act--unlike the prevention of incest or public nudity. It's about a piece of paper and tax filing status.
I agree.
And I believe the state has the right to restrict marriage.
Others here apparently do not.
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