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Old 03-03-2013, 06:50 PM
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Re: Is The Bible Infallible ?

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I think when someone says it "contains truth", they don't mean all of it is true. Otherwise they would have said that. They mean there are true things in it, but not all of it is necessarily true.

(This happens to be my view of the matter, btw. But you probably know that! )
Its hard to find any writing of any kind that doesn't "contain truth" somewhere.

The Bible doesn't simply contain truth, it defines and establishes truth.
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Its hard to find any writing of any kind that doesn't "contain truth" somewhere.

The Bible doesn't simply contain truth, it defines and establishes truth.
Yes, that is a commonly held opinion in these parts.
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Yes, that is a commonly held opinion in these parts.
Granted.

But assuming you believe in a such thing as "truth" (which based on your admission the Bible "contains truth") and thus, moral right and wrong. Can you tell me how you can define moral rights and wrongs without the revealed word of God?

Do you determine right/wrong based on your own opinions? Experiences? Popular opinion? Cultural or subcultural norms? Legislation?
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Granted.

But assuming you believe in a such thing as "truth" (which based on your admission the Bible "contains truth") and thus, moral right and wrong. Can you tell me how you can define moral rights and wrongs without the revealed word of God?

Do you determine right/wrong based on your own opinions? Experiences? Popular opinion? Cultural or subcultural norms? Legislation?
A little of all of the above. It's mostly common sense, really. Nobody, and I mean nobody, needs God to tell them not to murder. But only the written word would tell you that, e.g., gay sex is morally wrong. That's not common sense. Even if it seems "icky" to a lot of people, that doesn't make it wrong.

Can I ask you this? (Will anyway! ) Would you think it was perfectly fine to smash as store window and grab some jewelry, if it were not for the Bible? Would you think it's OK to lie? Kill? Rape?
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