We need to remember that mostly the New Testament was written years after it events took place.
No one can prove that. I myself write down events that happen in my life so I will remember them. So its not the same as if I will sit down one day at 70 peradventure just before I was to die and thought "ok now I will start trying to remember things that happened in my youth".
Today there is an interesting debate taking place in the Global Warming debate on the skeptical side.
The simple fact is, there has been no warming at all since 1997.
The line is flat.
Now was that 15 years ago? 16 years ago? 17 years ago?
It depends on perspective a lot more than it does math. 1997 from 2013 is 16.
but can you count 2013? we are but 2 months in... if not then it is 15 years. But what about counting 1997 and 2013? answer? 17.
6 days or about 8 days? is this a matter of someone gettting their math wrong or is it evidence of how someone precieves time?
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Today there is an interesting debate taking place in the Global Warming debate on the skeptical side.
The simple fact is, there has been no warming at all since 1997.
The line is flat.
Now was that 15 years ago? 16 years ago? 17 years ago?
It depends on perspective a lot more than it does math. 1997 from 2013 is 16.
but can you count 2013? we are but 2 months in... if not then it is 15 years. But what about counting 1997 and 2013? answer? 17.
6 days or about 8 days? is this a matter of someone gettting their math wrong or is it evidence of how someone precieves time?
Exactly. Like its Monday and the big game is Sunday, is that game 5,6, or 7 days away?
Tues to sat is 5, tues to sun is 6, mon to sun is 7.
I find it hard to believe that Luke with all his attention to detail would just throw out a guess, I think the truth is there is a difference in perception of time between Matthew and Luke. This is even more likely considering that Luke was a Gentile (and some commentators suggest that gentiles and jews count time differently. For example Gentiles tend to consider a day to consist of day and night, Jews tended to measure days as a evening then morning as we see in Genesis 1 and the sabbath laws).
Furthermore if this is one of the best arguments that can be made against inerrancy after 2000 (really 3500) years to make a case, then it would seem to me to actually stregthen the case of inerrancy to any unbiased observer. (And it is one of the best, because in fact almost every argument against inerrancy is this same recycled argument applied to different passages).
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I just think that it you use this logic to explain discrepancies, you really open the door for a lot of controversy......for instance, if Matthew said "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" and Peter said "In the name of Jesus" ..... did one of them mis-remember the actual formula when writing it down later?
Oh, and then Paul comes along and says "Just believe in the name of the Lord and you will be saved....AND your house".
See the dilemma?
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Exactly. Like its Monday and the big game is Sunday, is that game 5,6, or 7 days away?
Tues to sat is 5, tues to sun is 6, mon to sun is 7.
I find it hard to believe that Luke with all his attention to detail would just throw out a guess, I think the truth is there is a difference in perception of time between Matthew and Luke. This is even more likely considering that Luke was a Gentile (and some commentators suggest that gentiles and jews count time differently. For example Gentiles tend to consider a day to consist of day and night, Jews tended to measure days as a evening then morning as we see in Genesis 1 and the sabbath laws).
Furthermore if this is one of the best arguments that can be made against inerrancy after 2000 (really 3500) years to make a case, then it would seem to me to actually stregthen the case of inerrancy to any unbiased observer. (And it is one of the best, because in fact almost every argument against inerrancy is this same recycled argument applied to different passages).
Still waiting on those strong arguments against inerrancy.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
There are professing Christians today who feel the bible contains truth but it isn't inerrant. How can something truthful if it is in error,what say ye on the matter ? Also too were the original autographs of the Bible infallible ?
There are professing Christians today who feel the bible contains truth but it isn't inerrant. How can something truthful if it is in error,what say ye on the matter ? Also too were the original autographs of the Bible infallible ?
I think when someone says it "contains truth", they don't mean all of it is true. Otherwise they would have said that. They mean there are true things in it, but not all of it is necessarily true.
(This happens to be my view of the matter, btw. But you probably know that! )
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