Come Out Of Her My People
Let's face it. We are ruled in the churches by Pagan Christianity.
It was the Catholic Church that brought in the Trinity baptism.
The hierarchy of Clergy and Laity.
The paying of tithes.
Church buildings
And many other things.
And the only way that I see “
to come out of her” is to start Home Churches by those that are completely dedicated to God.
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It was the Catholic Church that brought in the Trinity baptism.
I assume you mean the RCC. So unless you are using a very liberal interpretation for the
RCC the trinity baptism was not started by the RCC. Most (the I have spoken to) assume the RCC began when Constantine came to power and wrote the edict of Milan. This was in the fourth century. Trinity baptism was used by many long before this in the third century. Therefore, you don't know your history.
The hierarchy of Clergy and Laity.
Perhaps you have never read:
Act 20:17 And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you
overseers (G1985), to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
G1985
ἐπίσκοπος
episkopos
Thayer Definition:
1) an overseer
1a) a man charged with the duty of seeing that things to be done by others are done rightly, any curator, guardian or superintendent
1b) the superintendent, elder, or overseer of a Christian church
Jer 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:
Jer 3:15 And I will give you
pastors (H7462) according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.
H7462
רעה
râ‛âh
BDB Definition:
1) to pasture, tend, graze, feed
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to tend, pasture
1a1a) to shepherd
1a1b) of ruler, teacher (figuratively)
1a1c) of people as flock (figuratively)
1a1d) shepherd, herdsman (substantive)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Sounds like an hierarchy to me...
The paying of tithes.
Seriously?
Let's get this straight you have attacked the ministry, claimed that it was the RCC that brought in the trinity baptism and now you are attacking tithes. In those immortal words...
Good Grief!
Why in the narrative of Abraham and Melchizedek do we find Abraham paying tithes? Who told him to do this? Where is the instruction for this? It just seemingly appears out of nowhere. Then there is Jacob who promises a tithes of all he had. All before the Levitical system. Why a tithe (which is ten percent, always)? Why not five percent or fifteen percent? Why always ten percent, a tithe?
I will not get into all this because it is pointless. I will however state that tithes were paid by every ancient culture before the Levitical system and after.
Then there is:
1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour (G5092), especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
1Ti 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
It is clear that in context Paul is dealing with the monetary livlihood of the ministry and invokes that Levitical Law concerning animals that are treading the corn. The ministry is worthy of their reward!
G5092
τιμή
timē
Thayer Definition:
1) a valuing by which the price is fixed
1a) of the price itself
1b) of the price paid or received for a person or thing bought or sold
2) honour which belongs or is shown to one
2a) of the honour which one has by reason of rank and state of office which he holds
2b) deference, reverence
VWS
Double honor (διπλῆς τιμῆς)
This at least includes pecuniary remuneration for services, if it is not limited to that. The use of τιμή as pay or price appears
Mat_27:6,
Mat_27:9;
Act_4:34;
Act_7:16; 1Co_6:20...
Tithing was in fact established among all civilizations prior to the Law.
Tithing was practiced prior to the Law in the Bible.
Tithing was used during the Law.
Jesus tithed.
Because tithing was established prior to the Law and during the Law please demonstrate where Jesus said not to tithe.
Since there are no scriptures where Jesus said tithing is abolished please demonstrate where any of the Apostles declared tithing to be null and void.
You can't.
Church buildings
Wow is all I can say. Now it is sin to have a "church building". How absolutely absurd!
Synagogues were the early churches. For example:
Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Act 18:7 And he departed thence, and entered into a certain man's house, named Justus, one that worshipped God, whose house joined hard to the synagogue.
Act 18:8 And Crispus,
the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
Facts are truly pesky things...
Let's face it. There are a lot of carnal "Christians" espousing doctrines they have no idea what they are talking about.
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