Quote:
|
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues
|
.
N David wrote
Quote:
|
I don't believe this is speaking about church buildings, tithes/offerings, etc. It clearly states "...be not partakers of her SINS."
|
And what the RCC has put into place has led to sin. It was sin in the first place, because,
Constantine, for Political reasons, a Pagan until he died, took churches away from Pagan Priests and gave them, to the Christians. Which sounds great, but at what price? They had to compromise, agree to baptize in the Trinity.
It is a sin to compromise with False Doctrine.
N David wrote
Quote:
|
You give the RCC too much credit. Like it or not, tithes and offerings are in the OT. That was done by Israel, not something started later by the RCC
|
.
David, take a lesson from history. It has been said,
Those that don't know their history are bound to repeat it.
Constantine started the first United Religions. Combining Paganism, OT teachings and Christianity.
Of course Tithes were in the OT. Three types of Tithes. I believe most of it was food. And the Priests were not allowed to own property. But we are not to go back to the laws of the OT. Jesus brought us a New Covenant. Which did not include Tithes. Nor did the First Century Church receive Tithes. To go back to the OT and "cherry-pick" just the laws you want to abide by, is just as bad, as the Denominal Churches, that pick certain scriptures for their salvation, in the New Testament, while ignoring the Foundation.
N David wrote
Quote:
|
Clergy and Laity are also not something created by the RCC. IMO, the RCC took that from the example of the priests in the Bible. One could also argue the Temple and Synagogues were the first "church buildings." The Synagogues had daily and weekly teaching and instruction in the Torah; the Temple was for annual rites and sacrifices.
|
Again to find Priests, and Synagogues, you have to go back to the Old Testament. Jesus told the Apostles,...
Quote:
Matthew 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
:26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
|
I've met many ministers that claim to be humble, and are there to minister to the people, but if you try to point out what you think is not right, see what happens. I have seen it happen over and over again. For instance, there was a big split in the church that I belonged to, for over 30 yrs. Over toeless shoes.
N David wrote,
Quote:
|
This whole thing is kind of left field to me. The thought that we should abandon buildings and such because of the connection to the RCC is absurd. The RCC practices prayer and communion, so I suppose we should shun that as well
|
.
Do you practice prayer (beads) and communion the same way that the RCC does?
I'm not really saying that we have to abandon buildings. I don't know what to say about that. But if they are set up as little Kingdoms with a King (man) as the ruler. Then I see no other way than to abandon the whole system. But any man in that position is not likely to do so.
However, persecution is on it's way. And just like Constantine, the churches will be asked to join the One World Religion, and if not, they will take the buildings away from you.
I read an article where a person was at one of these United Religion Meetings. And the question was asked, what would happen to people that would not join? It was stated,
They have to be eliminated.