End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Ok, think about this. You are speaking about letters Paul was writing at the time. They were NOT part of any Bible. He was speaking personally about the authority he had over the churches as a whole. It has nothing to do with his preacher status. In fact, Paul rarely spoke in churches at all. He was always on the run. But don't copy his letters that were NOT Bible and claim as though they were. Paul never said nor insinuated that his authority was equal to God's Word.

1Ti 5:17..  ..Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. (Not one Biblical qualification for a female Eldress)

1Th 5:12..  ..And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th 5:13..  ..And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.

Heb 13:7..  ..Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17..  ..Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Tit 2:15..  ..These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

The one who rules in the home was also to likewise be over the church

1Ti 3:4..  ..One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5..  ..(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

I never said Paul insinuated his authority was equal to God's word (you are putting words into my mouth). God's calling and His Word is what gives a MAN of God his authority.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by RJR

1Ti 5:17..  ..Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. (Not one Biblical qualification for a female Eldress)

1Th 5:12..  ..And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th 5:13..  ..And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.

Heb 13:7..  ..Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Heb 13:17..  ..Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Tit 2:15..  ..These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

The one who rules in the home was also to likewise be over the church

1Ti 3:4..  ..One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1Ti 3:5..  ..(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

I never said Paul insinuated his authority was equal to God's word (you are putting words into my mouth). God's calling and His Word is what gives a MAN of God his authority.

Again, when Paul wrote those letters, they were NOT the Word of God. NONE of them. I give you the Words of Jesus Himself, and you counter with Paul's. In doing so, you equate Paul to Jesus, which is why I said you insinuate that Paul's authority was equal to God's.

Again, who is Jesus speaking about in Matt 28:19?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Again, when Paul wrote those letters, they were NOT the Word of God. NONE of them. I give you the Words of Jesus Himself, and you counter with Paul's. In doing so, you equate Paul to Jesus, which is why I said you insinuate that Paul's authority was equal to God's.

Again, who is Jesus speaking about in Matt 28:19?

If it was given to women to baptize where did they baptize IN THE BIBLE? There is about 90 years of Biblical record after Mat 28:19. Sis Alvear said half of the MINISTERS Paul recognized were women, surely they were not disobedient if Mat 28:19 was instructions given to women? Don't forget to answer the questions.

1 Where did women baptize in the Bible?
2 Since there is no record did they disobey?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by RJR

If it was given to women to baptize where did they baptize IN THE BIBLE? There is about 90 years of Biblical record after Mat 28:19. Sis Alvear said half of the MINISTERS Paul recognized were women, surely they were not disobedient if Mat 28:19 was instructions given to women? Don't forget to answer the questions.

1 Where did women baptize in the Bible?
2 Since there is no record did they disobey?

Are you saying that Jesus would not have women go out into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature and baptize them? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that "Go YE therefore" is speaking to men only? Any man? Only Bishops? Only preachers? To whom is that verse speaking??

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Are you saying that Jesus would not have women go out into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature and baptize them? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that "Go YE therefore" is speaking to men only? Any man? Only Bishops? Only preachers? To whom is that verse speaking??

Context, Context, Context. Who was he instructing in Matt 28:19, hint look at Mat 28:16, and not one woman among those eleven he chose. He was instructing the ministry to teach and baptize. Not one woman in approx. 90 years of Bible history baptized. Guess your understanding must be more of a modern invention.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by RJR

Context, Context, Context. Who was he instructing in Matt 28:19, hint look at Mat 28:16, and not one woman among those eleven he chose. He was instructing the ministry to teach and baptize. Not one woman in approx. 90 years of Bible history baptized. Guess your understanding must be more of a modern invention.

It would have saved you a lot of time to just say that you don't know who that verse is speaking to.

[pilgram]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Are you saying that Jesus would not have women go out into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature and baptize them? Is that what you are saying? Are you saying that "Go YE therefore" is speaking to men only? Any man? Only Bishops? Only preachers? To whom is that verse speaking??

The Bible is the final authority; not what you or someone else "feels".

We all see on a daily basis how the world has warped people's thinking to where now in today's society what's right is now wrong and what's wrong is now right and frankly truth be told, a lot of women in this thread are out of order.

[RJR]

It is incredulous that the pro women preacher crowd is saying that 1 Tim 2: is underscoring the relationship between the wife and her husband. Should she be silent in the home 1Tim 2:11? That is the passage that states she is suppose to learn in silence with all subjection.

HELLO, you have a better chance of those women being quite in the church in 1 Cor 14:35, than you do the women being silent while their husband is teaching them at home.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by pilgram

Under the qualifications for the ministry it clearly states "the husband of one wife"

That settles it right there.

Precisely !

Originally Posted by pilgram

The Bible is the final authority; not what you or someone else "feels".

We all see on a daily basis how the world has warped people's thinking to where now in today's society what's right is now wrong and what's wrong is now right and frankly truth be told, a lot of women in this thread are out of order.

Exactly! Great points - but, trust me, they're dripping with defiance to clear biblical instructions, headship & the order of creation.


God Bless you !

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by pilgram

The Bible is the final authority; not what you or someone else "feels".

We all see on a daily basis how the world has warped people's thinking to where now in today's society what's right is now wrong and what's wrong is now right and frankly truth be told, a lot of women in this thread are out of order.

How so?