New dress code for Apostolic women

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Yes dear sister, this is a foolish post, but I made it to make a point.

My point is that if clothline preachers, want to equate holiness with clothes then they should have no problem declaring muslim women or nuns holier than the women in their churches.

And if holiness has nothing to do with clothes, then Christians can be holy and sanctified with their butt cheeks hanging out their spandex short-shorts.

Right?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And if holiness has nothing to do with clothes, then Christians can be holy and sanctified with their butt cheeks hanging out their spandex short-shorts.

Right?

Well we should be able to find some middle ground.

We do not need to go extremes, one way or another.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And if holiness has nothing to do with clothes, then Christians can be holy and sanctified with their butt cheeks hanging out their spandex short-shorts.

Right?

I never get a straight answer on this from those who are anti-standards.

How little can someone put on an it still be ok?

Adam and Eve though belts made of leaves were fine?

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I never get a straight answer on this from those who are anti-standards.

How little can someone put on an it still be ok?

Adam and Eve though belts made of leaves were fine?

Don't know how far I have time to go with this, but I will try.
How little can someone put on and still be ok?
To cover the loins.
It comes down to culture in which the person lives in.
Just because God made coverings of skins does not determine what God covered with those skins. History and scripture only speak of the shame of a women being uncovered around the loins area, up till the second and third century. Are we forgetting all the art in Europe's churches that depict women with their breast showing. If this was wrong do you think that this would have been allowed as art all through out Europe?
Scripture speaks many times of girding up their loins. Which was to pull the garments up between the legs leaving the legs exposed up to the crotch.
Then you have the robes of the priest that evidently were short enough that God commanded Moses to make breeches that they did not uncover their nakedness when serving in the tabernacle.
All that aside, I have been out of conservative churches for over 17 years now. And I have never seen the degree of unholy dress as is alluded to in the churches we have attended. This ranges from AOG to nondenominational churches.
As for butch hair cuts on women with no men in their lives? My wife has what would be termed as a butch hair cut, as does my daughters. All with men in their lives. It works for them.
"No clothing standard inevitably results in slobbiness, shabbiness, and a deterioration in self-perception from one of elite nobility to trailer park trash, with confirming lifestyle choices soon to follow." I have seen more slobbiness and shabbiness, in holiness churches than main stream churches, it seems the jean skirt is the go to dress for holiness women, and baggy clothes look dowdy rather than glorifying God.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Don't know how far I have time to go with this, but I will try.
How little can someone put on and still be ok?
To cover the loins.
It comes down to culture in which the person lives in.
Just because God made coverings of skins does not determine what God covered with those skins. History and scripture only speak of the shame of a women being uncovered around the loins area, up till the second and third century. Are we forgetting all the art in Europe's churches that depict women with their breast showing. If this was wrong do you think that this would have been allowed as art all through out Europe?
Scripture speaks many times of girding up their loins. Which was to pull the garments up between the legs leaving the legs exposed up to the crotch.
Then you have the robes of the priest that evidently were short enough that God commanded Moses to make breeches that they did not uncover their nakedness when serving in the tabernacle.
All that aside, I have been out of conservative churches for over 17 years now. And I have never seen the degree of unholy dress as is alluded to in the churches we have attended. This ranges from AOG to nondenominational churches.
As for butch hair cuts on women with no men in their lives? My wife has what would be termed as a butch hair cut, as does my daughters. All with men in their lives. It works for them.
"No clothing standard inevitably results in slobbiness, shabbiness, and a deterioration in self-perception from one of elite nobility to trailer park trash, with confirming lifestyle choices soon to follow." I have seen more slobbiness and shabbiness, in holiness churches than main stream churches, it seems the jean skirt is the go to dress for holiness women, and baggy clothes look dowdy rather than glorifying God.

Girding your loins like a man meant to tighten your belt. We have no evidence that anyone was to pull the garments up between the legs leaving the legs exposed up to the crotch. While I have heard that preached I've found that wasn't anywhere in ancient history. You also said that we are only to cover thighs and leave the chest exposed? You offer evidence of European art? So, ARE YOU SAYING it is Biblically and Christian for females to walk around topless. Women who are married can get a buzz cut and get a thumbs up?
So, everyone is cool as long as they are godly and holy on the inside, and be stark naked on the outside? Disclaimer: I AM NOT SAYING YOU BELIEVE THIS.

Just trying to understand why people believe what they believe

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And if holiness has nothing to do with clothes, then Christians can be holy and sanctified with their butt cheeks hanging out their spandex short-shorts.

Right?

Oh my!!!