So they sang an overtly, completely blatant Trinitarian song at a major Oneness-church camp meeting, and people are wondering what the big deal is. This is awful. Just when I think I've heard it all.... Elder G. T. Haywood wrote some of our best-loved hymns. Have you ever noticed that the old AOG hymnbooks don't contain them? They also don't contain "The Water Way" or "All in Him". Naturally, they excluded them because they came out of the Oneness camp. Did you ever notice that the Trinitarians are not making changes in THEIR position to drift over toward OUR camp?
There has been a subtle trend in recent years to water down our doctrine, to "work for changes", and to try to play down the differences between Trinitarian and Oneness theology. If your view of the Godhead doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter how you baptize...so the Apostolic plan of salvation isn't important anymore, either. Throw away standards of holiness while you're at it, too, just like they did. Next thing you know, we're all one big happy "church" where you can believe any way you want, be baptized any way you want, and nothing matters any more.
So where is this coming from? Of all of the many wonderful songs written and recorded in Apostolic Pentecost, why on earth would they take an overtly trinitarian song and perform it at a major Oneness camp meeting? I'm not making any accusations, but it does raise a question--does somebody have an agenda? Where are the elders? Who's minding the store? Just what WAS the spirit that Bro. Strange was sensing, and why aren't more people bothered by it? (I'm sure that this one song wasn't the only thing on his mind, but it might be indicative of a disturbing trend.)
Does anybody ever wonder how all of this affects the young people? They're going to grow up thinking, "what difference does it make? Trinity...Oneness...we're all saying the same thing, just using different ways to express it". Subtle, innocent-looking changes today snowball into major shifts tomorrow. Again, does it never occur to anyone that the trinitarians aren't emulating us and making subtle moves in OUR direction? THEY need what WE have...not the other way around. I'm deeply grieved.
So they sang an overtly, completely blatant Trinitarian song at a major Oneness-church camp meeting, and people are wondering what the big deal is. This is awful. Just when I think I've heard it all.... Elder G. T. Haywood wrote some of our best-loved hymns. Have you ever noticed that the old AOG hymnbooks don't contain them? They also don't contain "The Water Way" or "All in Him". Naturally, they excluded them because they came out of the Oneness camp. Did you ever notice that the Trinitarians are not making changes in THEIR position to drift over toward OUR camp?
There has been a subtle trend in recent years to water down our doctrine, to "work for changes", and to try to play down the differences between Trinitarian and Oneness theology. If your view of the Godhead doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter how you baptize...so the Apostolic plan of salvation isn't important anymore, either. Throw away standards of holiness while you're at it, too, just like they did. Next thing you know, we're all one big happy "church" where you can believe any way you want, be baptized any way you want, and nothing matters any more.
So where is this coming from? Of all of the many wonderful songs written and recorded in Apostolic Pentecost, why on earth would they take an overtly trinitarian song and perform it at a major Oneness camp meeting? I'm not making any accusations, but it does raise a question--does somebody have an agenda? Where are the elders? Who's minding the store? Just what WAS the spirit that Bro. Strange was sensing, and why aren't more people bothered by it? (I'm sure that this one song wasn't the only thing on his mind, but it might be indicative of a disturbing trend.)
Does anybody ever wonder how all of this affects the young people? They're going to grow up thinking, "what difference does it make? Trinity...Oneness...we're all saying the same thing, just using different ways to express it". Subtle, innocent-looking changes today snowball into major shifts tomorrow. Again, does it never occur to anyone that the trinitarians aren't emulating us and making subtle moves in OUR direction? THEY need what WE have...not the other way around. I'm deeply grieved.
Nope. We don't need a break. We need separation and holiness. I have said it once, I will say it again. The pagan trinity god is not our God, and so long as they deny the Fatherhood of Jesus Christ, their Jesus is not my Jesus.
Nope. We don't need a break. We need separation and holiness. I have said it once, I will say it again. The pagan trinity god is not our God, and so long as they deny the Fatherhood of Jesus Christ, their Jesus is not my Jesus.
Bro. With all due respect it is obvious that you dont have a clue what holiness is.
Nope. We don't need a break. We need separation and holiness. I have said it once, I will say it again. The pagan trinity god is not our God, and so long as they deny the Fatherhood of Jesus Christ, their Jesus is not my Jesus.
Do you use the King James Version?
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
So they sang an overtly, completely blatant Trinitarian song at a major Oneness-church camp meeting, and people are wondering what the big deal is. This is awful. Just when I think I've heard it all.... Elder G. T. Haywood wrote some of our best-loved hymns. Have you ever noticed that the old AOG hymnbooks don't contain them? They also don't contain "The Water Way" or "All in Him". Naturally, they excluded them because they came out of the Oneness camp. Did you ever notice that the Trinitarians are not making changes in THEIR position to drift over toward OUR camp?
There has been a subtle trend in recent years to water down our doctrine, to "work for changes", and to try to play down the differences between Trinitarian and Oneness theology. If your view of the Godhead doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter how you baptize...so the Apostolic plan of salvation isn't important anymore, either. Throw away standards of holiness while you're at it, too, just like they did. Next thing you know, we're all one big happy "church" where you can believe any way you want, be baptized any way you want, and nothing matters any more.
So where is this coming from? Of all of the many wonderful songs written and recorded in Apostolic Pentecost, why on earth would they take an overtly trinitarian song and perform it at a major Oneness camp meeting? I'm not making any accusations, but it does raise a question--does somebody have an agenda? Where are the elders? Who's minding the store? Just what WAS the spirit that Bro. Strange was sensing, and why aren't more people bothered by it? (I'm sure that this one song wasn't the only thing on his mind, but it might be indicative of a disturbing trend.)
Does anybody ever wonder how all of this affects the young people? They're going to grow up thinking, "what difference does it make? Trinity...Oneness...we're all saying the same thing, just using different ways to express it". Subtle, innocent-looking changes today snowball into major shifts tomorrow. Again, does it never occur to anyone that the trinitarians aren't emulating us and making subtle moves in OUR direction? THEY need what WE have...not the other way around. I'm deeply grieved.
You must not have noticed but they actually have been and still do sing songs written by Oneness Pentecostals
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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