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Old 12-31-2007, 03:01 AM
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Repentance is turning from sin and turning to God (180 degree), so it is impossible to entrust and believe in Jesus (turning to God) without repentance taking place.
But where does the bible say that? See my point is you are quoting this in the recent "spat" over acts 2:38 and the three step vs 1 step blah blah blah issue...this does not mention baptism. But it also does not mention repentance. If you can say it is impossible to entrust and believe in Jesus without repentance taking place then anyone else can say it is impossible to have genuine faith and repent without obeying the command to be baptized. Do we need to repent to be saved? See the other side here is not going to disagree with you as long as each side gets to define what it means to believe in Jesus

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And believing is not a matter of some mental assent.

Martin Luther said it best when he said:

“There are two ways to believe. The first way is to believe about God, meaning that we believe what is taught about God is really true. It’s similar to believing that what is taught about the devil or hell is true. This type of belief is more a statement of knowledge than an expression of faith.


“The second way is to believe in God. This not only includes believing what is taught about God is true but also includes trusting him and daring to be in relationship with him. It means believing without any doubt that he really is who he says he is, and he will do all he says he will do. I wouldn’t believe any person to this same degree, no matter how highly others might praise him. It’s easy to believe that someone is godly, but it’s another matter to completely rely on him.


“A person who believes in God believes everything written about God in Scripture. He dares to believe this in life and in death. This faith makes a person a true Christian and gives him everything he desires from God. A person with an evil, hypocritical heart can’t have this type of faith, for it’s a living faith, as described in the first commandment: “I am the LORD your God . . . Never have any other god” (Exodus 20:2-3).
Yet Martin Luther believed in Roman Catholic Baptismal Regeneration and infant baptism.
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