STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs!

[StMark]

Originally Posted by rrford

IMO, it has been the combination of many things. World tragedies more abundant, the onslaught of technology, the eroding of decency standards in Hollywood, declining morals in America, the rising crime rate, etc. Sadly, as goes the world, so goes the church in too many cases.

As I stated, the desinsitization has now led to indifference. It used to be that folks would eventually respond although they had initially overrode conviction. I think we are seeing less and less of that.

My personal opinion, and some would strongly disagree, is that we need an incredible, undenyable move of the Holy Ghost coupled with a stronger pulpit than we have had in quite a while. (Notice I said stronger pulpit, not stronger personalities or abuse of the pulpit.)

define what YOU mean by " stronger pulpit" ? I don't think anyone would agree we need a move of the holy ghost. I think the bottom line is, most of the ministry stopped praying. the level of of consecration is low. noticed I didn't say "rules and codes". I'm around the ministry and I was around the old preachers too and can say there is a big difference

[rrford]

Originally Posted by StMark

define what YOU mean by " stronger pulpit" ? I don't think anyone would agree we need a move of the holy ghost. I think the bottom line is, most of the ministry stopped praying. the level of of consecration is low. noticed I didn't say "rules and codes". I'm around the ministry and I was around the old preachers too and can say there is a big difference

I mean a pulpit that returns to preaching about sin, hell, eternity, the Rapture. A strong pulpit does so with compassion, commitment and passion. The feel good messages are leaving the church passionless.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by rrford

I mean a pulpit that returns to preaching about sin, hell, eternity, the Rapture. A strong pulpit does so with compassion, commitment and passion. The feel good messages are leaving the church passionless.

Amen!!!!!!!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by rrford

I mean a pulpit that returns to preaching about sin, hell, eternity, the Rapture. A strong pulpit does so with compassion, commitment and passion. The feel good messages are leaving the church passionless.

One of Dan Scott's reocurring themes this year has been that people must find transformation at church.

If they are just coming to hear good music, drink coffee in the cafe, hear sermons on positive thinking, then they might as well spend Sunday at the mall.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by CC1

One of Dan Scott's reocurring themes this year has been that people must find transformation at church.

If they are just coming to hear good music, drink coffee in the cafe, hear sermons on positive thinking, then they might as well spend Sunday at the mall.

Sadly too many treat church as some kind of spiritual shopping mall. They only want a "specialty store" that fits within their economy of what comprises a walk with God. In other words, they are defining what God should be telling them and giving them instead of simply coming to the marketplace of the Lord for whatever He has for that day.

[Michael The Disciple]

It is absurd to say Hillsong has nothing to do with the Cross. I prefer their music to almost anything I have heard in an Apostolic Church.

No cross? Take the challenge of listening to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiy3_KRKNaQ

Someone is passing along lies it would seem if they say Hillsong does not sing about the cross.

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It is absurd to say Hillsong has nothing to do with the Cross. I prefer their music to almost anything I have heard in an Apostolic Church.

No cross? Take the challenge of listening to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiy3_KRKNaQ

Someone is passing along lies it would seem if they say Hillsong does not sing about the cross.

Thank you, thank you, and thank you. These threads really tire me out and I am through with them. It is retarded to think that the UPC and apostolics have a stranglehold on anointed music. That the pentecostal hymnbook is the ONLY way. Is that guy an idiot to ask for no Blood songs? Yes!!! Does that mean Hillsong and modern music can't be anointed, NOOOOOOO!!! I really get tired of some of you and these stoopid statements.
This morning we had an ole' fashioned pentecostal breakthrough and again the Spirit took over and it was wonderful....the song that was playing while it blew open???? Matt Redman's "Blessed Be Your Name" some folks took the lyric to heart, just like Job...You give and take away, my heart will choose to say, blessed be Your Name

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Thank you, thank you, and thank you. These threads really tire me out and I am through with them. It is retarded to think that the UPC and apostolics have a stranglehold on anointed music. That the pentecostal hymnbook is the ONLY way. Is that guy an idiot to ask for no Blood songs? Yes!!! Does that mean Hillsong and modern music can't be anointed, NOOOOOOO!!! I really get tired of some of you and these stoopid statements.
This morning we had an ole' fashioned pentecostal breakthrough and again the Spirit took over and it was wonderful....the song that was playing while it blew open???? Matt Redman's "Blessed Be Your Name" some folks took the lyric to heart, just like Job...You give and take away, my heart will choose to say, blessed be Your Name

Monkey Man!!!! you're not paying close attention sir!

I said that the pastor only wants hill song STYLE STYLE...got it?? STYLE

no particular artist was named that I know of.


many of the hillsongs are great.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It is absurd to say Hillsong has nothing to do with the Cross. I prefer their music to almost anything I have heard in an Apostolic Church.

No cross? Take the challenge of listening to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiy3_KRKNaQ

Someone is passing along lies it would seem if they say Hillsong does not sing about the cross.

I love that song.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by rrford

Sadly too many treat church as some kind of spiritual shopping mall. They only want a "specialty store" that fits within their economy of what comprises a walk with God. In other words, they are defining what God should be telling them and giving them instead of simply coming to the marketplace of the Lord for whatever He has for that day.

So you saw that episode of King of the Hill as well? LOL