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Originally Posted by Baron1710
First most of your points are rambling and have no point, Second you excuse Jesus breaking of the law because he was God yet say that He didn't break the law, a bit contradictory, third there is a prohibition against carrying a burden on the Sabbath ( Jeremiah 17:21) finally you conclude with, "They falsely claimed." John didn't say the Jews thought He broke the law, we have no problem with the idea that John says he made Himself equal with God, but you want to apply it to the Jews when John says Jesus broke the Sabbath.
I know you want to force Jesus into obedience to the law and he could have obeyed all the law, but he came to change the law and was not bound by it. |
Again show me where it is against the LAW for GOD to work on the Sabbath?
Show me where it is against the law for MAN to OBEY GOD on the Sabbath?
Works that are initiated on the part of MAN are limited on the Sabbath! Works initiated by GOD unto man are never forbidden!
Joh 5:10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is
not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
oh 5:18 Therefore the
Jews sought the more to kill him,
because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John points out the JEWS thought he had broken the SABBATH from prima facia evidence and he was pointing out the mentality the JEWS did not believe him that his "works" claim to be God superceded the LAW of the Sabbath. The Jews knew that the only way he could not be held accountable to that aspect of the LAW was to be God as the LAW did not render GOD impotent on the Sabbath. YES, IF AND I SAY IF Jesus was not God he would have broken the Sabbath but he wasn't. Also if Jesus was not God (which he is) if God tells a man to do something by his authority it is not mans WORK by his own initiative but GODS work and there is not law against such! It is about putting to rest mans desires and works thus LAYING DOWN HIS BURDEN, NOT GODS!
Thus the Jews went after him seeing him AS A MAN NOT GOD MANIFESTED and accused him of both breaking the SABBATH and CLAIMING to be equal with GOD.
Both errors as GOD has not limitations on the Sabbath and Jesus had the authority of GOD.
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