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Old 12-01-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: Road Rage at it Best - Good Grief!

All I know is that I've found 2 of my fellow AFF'ers who I never, ever want to get in a car with.

When you say that you can understand how the man could get angry enough to shoot at someone who ran him off the road, does that also mean that you could understand how someone could get angry enough to shoot their spouse because they overdrew the bank account?

I'm not saying the other driver was in the right. But NOTHING justifies that kind of violence against another person. NOTHING! If he gets angry enough when something like this happens that he can't control himself and has to shoot the other person, then he doesn't belong on the road himself. If he can't control himself, he has no business driving.
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All I know is that I've found 2 of my fellow AFF'ers who I never, ever want to get in a car with.

When you say that you can understand how the man could get angry enough to shoot at someone who ran him off the road, does that also mean that you could understand how someone could get angry enough to shoot their spouse because they overdrew the bank account?

I'm not saying the other driver was in the right. But NOTHING justifies that kind of violence against another person. NOTHING! If he gets angry enough when something like this happens that he can't control himself and has to shoot the other person, then he doesn't belong on the road himself. If he can't control himself, he has no business driving.
Exactly! He broke the law!
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:53 PM
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All I know is that I've found 2 of my fellow AFF'ers who I never, ever want to get in a car with.

When you say that you can understand how the man could get angry enough to shoot at someone who ran him off the road, 1) does that also mean that you could understand how someone could get angry enough to shoot their spouse because they overdrew the bank account?
2) I'm not saying the other driver was in the right. But 3) NOTHING justifies that kind of violence against another person. NOTHING! If he gets angry enough when something like this happens that he can't control himself and has to shoot the other person,then he doesn't belong on the road himself. 4) If he can't control himself, he has no business driving.

1) No Ma'am it just means that I can understand how the man could get angry enough to shoot at someone who ran him off the road.

2) I am not saying the shooter was right either.

3) I disagree with you here. I'm not saying that violence was the acceptable response here. In fact, I have already stated that gun violence was not acceptable for this situation.

But I can think of situations where gun violence would be the appropriate response.

I have the Bible to back me up on this too.

4) So we can not give this guy the benefit of doubt? Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he needs some anger management counseling. Maybe he's a war veteran.

How quick are we to demonize this guy, when if the so called "victim" had just been more considerate, this would not have happened.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:41 AM
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1) No Ma'am it just means that I can understand how the man could get angry enough to shoot at someone who ran him off the road.

2) I am not saying the shooter was right either.

3) I disagree with you here. I'm not saying that violence was the acceptable response here. In fact, I have already stated that gun violence was not acceptable for this situation.

But I can think of situations where gun violence would be the appropriate response.

I have the Bible to back me up on this too.

4) So we can not give this guy the benefit of doubt? Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe he needs some anger management counseling. Maybe he's a war veteran.
How quick are we to demonize this guy, when if the so called "victim" had just been more considerate, this would not have happened.

none of that matters.
None of it is excuse for attempting murder, reckless endangerment to persons and property, or assault with a deadly weapon.

It's also insulting to veterans to insinuate veterans cannot controll themselves enough to refrain from committing a felony over a mere nuisance.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:05 AM
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none of that matters.
None of it is excuse for attempting murder, reckless endangerment to persons and property, or assault with a deadly weapon.

It's also insulting to veterans to insinuate veterans cannot controll themselves enough to refrain from committing a felony over a mere nuisance.
It seems to me that there were 2 attempted murders. the second certainly isnt excused by the first, however the first isnt excused by the second.
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It seems to me that there were 2 attempted murders. the second certainly isnt excused by the first, however the first isnt excused by the second.
Sounds like guesswork, and of course you could be right. Don't know what basis you have for it, but whatever.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:17 AM
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Sounds like guesswork, and of course you could be right. Don't know what basis you have for it, but whatever.
Someone running you off the road could be attempted murder, but of course, you have more lattitude that you give to those kinds of drivers.
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Sounds like guesswork, and of course you could be right. Don't know what basis you have for it, but whatever.
guy pulls out. other guy ends up in the ditch. Now lets say this is the end of the story.

even if the idiot that caused the accident didnt see the person, they still thru their own negligence caused someone to end up in the ditch.

idiot did an idiot thing and that happens far far far too often. This guy gets a pass because he ran the wrong person off the road.

Lets procecute the second guy for the shooting. But lets not act like numskull number one is an innocent who is guilt free and got shot while minding his own business.
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guy pulls out. other guy ends up in the ditch. Now lets say this is the end of the story.

even if the idiot that caused the accident didnt see the person, they still thru their own negligence caused someone to end up in the ditch.

idiot did an idiot thing and that happens far far far too often. This guy gets a pass because he ran the wrong person off the road.

Lets procecute the second guy for the shooting. But lets not act like numskull number one is an innocent who is guilt free and got shot while minding his own business.
I don't recall anyone giving that guy a pass. I do recall someone saying he hopes the shooter is never caught. That sounds like a pass, to me.
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guy pulls out. other guy ends up in the ditch. Now lets say this is the end of the story.

even if the idiot that caused the accident didnt see the person, they still thru their own negligence caused someone to end up in the ditch.

idiot did an idiot thing and that happens far far far too often. This guy gets a pass because he ran the wrong person off the road.

Lets procecute the second guy for the shooting. But lets not act like numskull number one is an innocent who is guilt free and got shot while minding his own business.
Good point.

I just dont understand the view that says he deserved it, the shooter was justified.
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