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Originally Posted by pelathais
1 Peter 3:21:
"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
Now, read it without the parenthentical clause that Peter adds to avoid having people think that the water is somehow "magical."
"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us ... by the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
Re-adding and temporarily lifting the parenthetical clause does nothing to change the meaning of Peter's simple statement. Baptism can only be said to "save us" - "by the resurrection of Jesus Christ!"
You make a goofy and false accusation against me just so that you can say the same thing that I did? Whatever dude. I clearly DID NOT "change the text" and everyone who reads this will question your integrity from this point forward.
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Oh please. lol.
I took YOUR WORDS as follows:
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How does "baptism now save us...?" It is clear - we are NOT saved by our obedience to the instruction to be baptized, rather, we are saved by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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Instead of saying "
we are saved by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." you should have said "
baptism saves us by the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
Gripe all you want, but I showed what you said and what you did not say. Now, you either MEANT what you said or you were mistaken in what you wrote and actually meant baptism saves by resurrection of Jesus. It's like you cannot get yourself to say baptism saves as Peter said it, is my point.