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Old 08-20-2010, 10:00 AM
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Re: I Love the UPCI

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You're not very good at responding to reason, are you? Are you familiar with the term, "Analogy"? Look it up. That's what NFS did here, he used an "Analogy." He said, "I can just see you dealing with these women....Get your big boy pants on." He's saying you would apply that to anyone's hurt. Good grief.

I happen to agree with him. You seem to apply that resolution to anything:

Acts Early Church: "Oh no, Steven was just stoned!"
Drill Sergeant Ferd: "Get your big boy pants on."

Despondent little boy: "Oh no, my dog was just hit by a car!"
Drill Sergeant Ferd: "Buck it you, you sniveling little brat, put your big boy pants on!"

John the Baptist's Mother: "I can't believe they just beheaded my son!!"
Drill Sergeant Ferd: "Yawn. Put your Big Boy skirt on."



The problem is, D.S.F., your "Get dressed" logic doesn't apply to everyone else. One of the greatest mistakes I've seen in ministry is the expectation that everyone deals with grief the same way. It is never productive to force everyone to jump into the same mold and deal with unmet expectations, tragedy, or grief in the same manner.

You want everyone to just "Get over it" and I would love it if that were possible. But it's not.

That's your first problem.

Your second problem is, you assume (and the number one rule of life is, never assume anything) that everyone here who has a negative thing to say about the UPC is bashing, complaining, can't let it go, blah, blah, blah. And to be fair, there are those like that. I didn't join "Global Network" for a long time because every event I went to was just UPC bashing. My service to Jesus Christ is not about my disagreement and ultimate disassociation with the UPC.

I realize you're not going to budge from your stance here. Continue on with your head in the sand, pretending that there aren't enough dysfunctions in the UPC to deserve being calling out for it. That's your life. But you're never going to be able to make the REAL issues of those who have been disenfranchised from speaking their piece.

First you really do need to go get some big boy pants. you are getting silly.
Second, I certainly do not assume that everyone here has something bad to say about the UPCI. silly. Not only do I not assume that but have stated in this thread that some kinds of negative comments about individuals within the UPCI are warranted.
third, there is a massive difference between dealing with YOUR whining about the "system" and dealing with someone who has really suffered horror. these things are not analogous.
Fourth, you say Notforsale used an analogy then you point out that he is saying this is the way I would deal with seriously damaged people. There is no reason in your statement. There is no truth in his.
Fifth, you really do need big boy pants.

I do appreciated the irony of you saying I am making assumptions. Its funny. Really.
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