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Old 01-19-2011, 05:59 PM
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Re: False Doctrine Part 1 - How To Stop Sinning

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Originally Posted by Hoovie View Post
QUITTING IS EASY

Even a Dummy can quit.
No experience required.
No 12-step program required.
WHAT DO I DO?

The First thing you must do is Repent. Ask the Lord Jesus to forgive you!
Then quit sinning.
Isn’t that overly simplistic? NO! It’s exactly what the Bible says to do.


1. I am not so sure he is saying it can be done without Jesus nor without the Holy Ghost (I think his reference is to Holy Spirit Baptism, and not the Spirit of God working in and with the repentant candidate)

2. It seems clear to me he prefaces "quitting" with repentance and forgiveness... I would argue true repentance and forgiveness makes one pure and "sin-free" walking in the newness of life. No longer about me but ALL about HIM.

3. "Quitting" does not mean you will never sin nor does he say that. It may be that Mr Ballestero is simply using catchy terms like "Quit Sinning For Dummies" to draw folks to the heart of the matter which is a relationship with Christ... "Repent. Ask the Lord Jesus to forgive you!"
Well.... I guess we will talk about....

1. The first thing is that Jesus is calling us to Himself. First thing to do is to hear the Message, the Story, know that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. We can't get ourselves perfect. We can't say "I'm sorry" enough, make enough resolutions, we are completely dependent on the justice of God evidenced in the suffering on the cross.

Repentance is turning to God. And He didn't come to make us good people, he came to make us who were dead... live!

His entire emphasis of the blog is on the person to "just quit" - sort of reminiscent of this old SNL video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1g3ENYxg9k


If he calls this trying to quit on your own (because it's just a "choice"!!!!) repentance, then he's not accurately presenting what repentance is all about.

2. He actually explicitly said in pretty clear terms that since it's a choice, you can just quit. "Do I need the Holy Ghost? NO!" Familiar with his theology, I'm not sure there is any other way to have the Spirit working in and through you.

3. No one never said he says we will NEVER sin. He simply articulates sin in a way that it's a condition we can simply overcome by "not doing it." It ignores the entire reason for the Gospel (not just a step called "repentance" that we believe is where we pledge to be good little boys all the days of our life).

I've tried this cycle of saying "I'm sorry" and leaning on my own efforts for years. I'll just ask you... "How's that working out for you?"
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