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Originally Posted by Acoustic
Are you a universalist? If so I can understand your problem with reformed theology.
I notice you have 1 Cor 15:22 as your tag line - do you believe all are saved? If not then how do you understand this scripture?
The very next verse says But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. Notice that it is not ALL but those that BELONG to Christ. ie the ones he purchased with his blood. Also John 6:37 says "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out." Indecently this was the verse I based my comment "I have come to taste the sweetness of what it means to be justified by God's grace - to know that none who are given to Christ will be lost and be able to rest (be still and know that I am God) in the Sabbath that is Jesus Christ."
Regarding your accusation of arrogance and self-centredness you either have absolutely no understanding of reformed theology or you are purposefully ignoring some of the basic premises. Christ-centredness, NOT self-centredness, is at the heart of reformed theology. Any reformed who was acting arrogant regarding their salvation really has no understanding of the doctrine of justification and when examined would be exposed as not having a correct understanding or reformed theology.
How could anyone who truly believes that while they were still an enemy of God, God sent His Son to die for them, when all they deserved was God's wrath, be arrogant?? The life of Paul is a perfect example of this.
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22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Let's include the total context, a lot more comes after "...those that belong to Christ..." with the ultimate being "...put ALL things under him, that God may be ALL IN ALL." He goes ahead and completes the work, and God is finally all in all. Giving means to "...so ALSO in Christ ALL are made alive..." referring back to "...as in Adam ALL die..." The same folks that died in Adam are made alive in Christ.
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