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02-15-2011, 04:09 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
No bobbed-hair in the bride.....didn't Elder Epley say that once?
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02-15-2011, 06:22 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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No bobbed-hair in the bride.....didn't Elder Epley say that once?
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02-15-2011, 06:23 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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Exactly. And if you research the whole braided hair issue you will also find it was a cultural issue too. Not mere simple braids. It was not braiding hair. It was hair woven in elaborate braids with gold and other precious metals or gems.
Same is true with other issues. Was it a cultural thing then for women to not teach?
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The point was being made for the women not to do things that would draw attention to themselves. That had nothing to do with their culture of the time.
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02-15-2011, 06:31 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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Are you for greeting each other with a kiss?
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The point was being made for the women not to do things that would draw attention to themselves. That had nothing to do with their culture of the time.
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I believe if you study it out, like the Holy kiss, you'd see that it had a lot to do with the culture at the time, what women were doing AND that a woman's emphasis should be the inward man, just as it should be for men too
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02-15-2011, 10:33 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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I knew several preaches who did.
One even preached that it represented the trinity.  |
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02-16-2011, 08:25 AM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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1Ti 2:9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1Pe 3:3 Do not let your adorning be external--the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear--
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Considering the verses you have submitted with other verses of a similar tenor...
1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1 Peter 3:4 But [let it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
I have always found it interesting that the groups that stress modesty etc so strongly (and it should be) will also tend to be the groups who are most known for the outward adorning with elaborate hair do's, dressing up in costly clothes and, sometimes, brash spirits.
Gnat's & camels come to mind.
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02-22-2011, 11:49 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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02-23-2011, 01:30 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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Considering the verses you have submitted with other verses of a similar tenor...
1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1 Peter 3:4 But [let it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
I have always found it interesting that the groups that stress modesty etc so strongly (and it should be) will also tend to be the groups who are most known for the outward adorning with elaborate hair do's, dressing up in costly clothes and, sometimes, brash spirits.
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Two verses (maybe three if you count Deut) about women's clothes. Sixteen against gossip, specifically (that doesn't count backbiting and so forth). Over fifty about slander. But some people worry more about the length of a sleeve that the words of the mouth. It isn't what goes into a man... or what he puts on for that matter... that defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
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02-23-2011, 02:27 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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Two verses (maybe three if you count Deut) about women's clothes. Sixteen against gossip, specifically (that doesn't count backbiting and so forth). Over fifty about slander. But some people worry more about the length of a sleeve that the words of the mouth. It isn't what goes into a man... or what he puts on for that matter... that defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
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I would agree completely without qualification.
Gossip... slander... hatred... envy... strife... murders... adultery... the list is long and too few people even take the time to preach it.
And I didn't use the verse in Deuteronomy. I don't use it. It is intermingled with a bunch of other scriptures that we completely ignore and I find that inconsistent and frivolous to do so.
What I am talking about isn't pants or short sleeves. What I'm talking about is an inward spirit by which we choose our clothing. All of us. We can put on a dress that goes to the floor with sleeves to the fingernails and a neckline to the earlobes...
But we often still completely miss the point these days. I saw a picture on facebook today of a pentecostal girl. LIterlally... neckline to the earlobes... But gold pieces in her hair (not real gold i am sure)... very fancy stylings, her hair was dolled up with every conceivable curl & crimp...
And yet most would say it was holy because it is a dress etc. Who adorns themselves more than pentecostals when it comes to hair? Very few.
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I'm not trying to put dress rules on people. I'm saying that those who tout the dress rules the most seem to be missing the point entirely IMO.
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02-23-2011, 11:23 PM
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Re: Do You Preach Braids Are A Sin?
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I would agree completely without qualification.
Gossip... slander... hatred... envy... strife... murders... adultery... the list is long and too few people even take the time to preach it.
And I didn't use the verse in Deuteronomy. I don't use it. It is intermingled with a bunch of other scriptures that we completely ignore and I find that inconsistent and frivolous to do so.
What I am talking about isn't pants or short sleeves. What I'm talking about is an inward spirit by which we choose our clothing. All of us. We can put on a dress that goes to the floor with sleeves to the fingernails and a neckline to the earlobes...
But we often still completely miss the point these days. I saw a picture on facebook today of a pentecostal girl. LIterlally... neckline to the earlobes... But gold pieces in her hair (not real gold i am sure)... very fancy stylings, her hair was dolled up with every conceivable curl & crimp...And yet most would say it was holy because it is a dress etc. Who adorns themselves more than pentecostals when it comes to hair? Very few.
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I'm not trying to put dress rules on people. I'm saying that those who tout the dress rules the most seem to be missing the point entirely IMO.
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Would you say that there is a limit to how a Pentecostal girl can style her hair? Or what about wearing stylish clothing? I want an answer, because I sorta want to vent about something.
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