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Old 02-24-2011, 05:01 PM
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Re: Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

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Other than it's just weird (and necromancy is forbidden, is it not?), there's no difference at all. You ask someone other than God to do something for you, in both cases. If that is why it's wrong to pray to saints, then it must also be wrong to ask your friend for a favor.
Sam summed it up pretty well. The RCC is "petitioning" a saint to pray for them... and NOT "worshiping" the saint. At least they're not supposed to.

"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, "
This is how the angel greeted Mary - Luke 1:28 - no worship here.

"and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus."
A summation of the words further spoken by the angel - Luke 1:30-35

"Holy Mary, Mother of God,"
This includes the the "Θεοτόκε" statement that many say was added later. "Θεοτόκε" is Greek for "God bearing" or "Mother of God." Technically, this does sum up what the angel was saying when he described the "Son of God" that was to be born from Mary's womb.

"pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen"
This is the petition asking Mary, the mother of Jesus to pray for the one saying these words. Christians commonly as other Christians to pray for them.

Nothing here about "worship" nor even submission like we see in the "Lord's Prayer:"

Our Father, which art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done,
...

For thine is the kingdom,
the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.


There. A "defense" of the "Hail Mary." Is this a "FIRST" on backslidden AFF?
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