Ungodliness is ungodliness regardless of where it is found. Nevertheless, there is one difference: "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm." Do it if you will but you will also pay a terrible price. But, like a dumb ox led to the slaughter, those that put their hand against God's anointed will not know when they are paying the price unless their heart is humbled and broken with a view of their sin.
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I wonder if ministers are better than regular believers? Do they think they can have a different biblical standard than the other believers? Absolutely not! But, I have no problem with preachers having their own forum to support one another and build themselves up on the most holy faith.
As a minister, as a believer, I do not ever want to think that I am leading people to believe I am better or of a higher quality than anyone else. If anything, I covet the prayers of the saints, so that I may walk worthy of the calling, and that my feet step no more to the right or left. I want to be right, and know that when I step into the pulpit, I am under greater condemnation for what I preach.
So, when preachers get big headed and think they are better, pray hard and fast for them that God would humble them under the power of His Holy Spirit. But, let us hold up the warriors in the pulpits, whether they be fiberglass, wood, or street corner, and pray God's grace, mercy, and anointing to keep them in all their ways.
Good post.
No. A preacher is not any better than anyone else. In fact, sometimes he is less than a proper example before a flock of God's sheep than he should be or could be if he was more consecrated than he might be.
However, regardless of the human flaws in that man of God, when he don the cloak of his God-called office and steps into the pulpit by his divine appointment, it is a fearful thing to touch this man as to his office. It is a fearful thing to do regardless if you are a king or serf or regardless of how little that you might esteem the man in the natural.
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We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
I believe the gripe is the hypocrisy. Getting blasted because you don't tow the line of standards and judged for that, then said person breaks a commandment and their peers are "disappointed" in them, but not judged? That's what gets old.
I have sinned. I do not take pleasure in sending others to hell for their behavior. I never want to be a hypocrite.
No, we don't want to be hypocrites.
But, IMO, wanting to judge others by how they handle or judge someone else while our own past sins lay silently and not out in the open for all to see and judge how they should have been handled, is also a hypocrisy, IMO.
If everyone's sins were laid out, side by side, for all to see and be judged, then I would agree with you. No doubt there are those that speak of other's sins, when they have their own, tucked away never to be known or discussed. That's all I am saying. It's a rather fearful idea to have to contend with Matthew 6:12 at some point.
No. A preacher is not any better than anyone else. In fact, sometimes he is less than a proper example before a flock of God's sheep than he should be or could be if he was more consecrated than he might be.
However, regardless of the human flaws in that man of God, when he don the cloak of his God-called office and steps into the pulpit by his divine appointment, it is a fearful thing to touch this man as to his office. It is a fearful thing to do regardless if you are a king or serf or regardless of how little that you might esteem the man in the natural.
Of course it is pretty convenient that they "will not know they are paying the price"...
I'm going to fine everyone I don't like a gazillion bazillion Brad dollars... now that only works if you believe in Brad dollars... but if you DON'T believe in Brad dollars then you better repent until you do...
But, IMO, wanting to judge others by how they handle or judge someone else while our own past sins lay silently and not out in the open for all to see and judge how they should have been handled, is also a hypocrisy, IMO.
If everyone's sins were laid out, side by side, for all to see and be judged, then I would agree with you. No doubt there are those that speak of other's sins, when they have their own, tucked away never to be known or discussed. That's all I am saying. It's a rather fearful idea to have to contend with Matthew 6:12 at some point.
I agree.
The difference I see though is how can you "send people to hell" when you know you have sin in your life? That's all I am saying.
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We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
I believe the gripe is the hypocrisy. Getting blasted because you don't tow the line of standards and judged for that, then said person breaks a commandment and their peers are "disappointed" in them, but not judged? That's what gets old.
I have sinned. I do not take pleasure in sending others to hell for their behavior. I never want to be a hypocrite.
You've found the heart of the matter.
Standards are fluid, commandments are hard and fast.
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The difference I see though is how can you "send people to hell" when you know you have sin in your life? That's all I am saying.
And all the while they rail on lib posters and preach "holiness or Hell" messages they are lying to their congregation, cheating on their wife, and stealing another man's wife and family.
And that behavior is somehow more acceptable than not preaching against TV.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
The difference I see though is how can you "send people to hell" when you know you have sin in your life? That's all I am saying.
Right, I totally agree with you here.
I guess I am wanting to discuss and understand Matthew Mat 6:12 "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." He wants us to show the same mercy he affords us.
I was also reading Matthew 6:14 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:". A commentator said that Jesus was addressing this because he knew the Jews were "very subject" toward revenge. Yikes!
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