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03-18-2011, 05:13 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Instead of getting ridiculous, why don’t we just have a mature conversation about music.
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You don't think your first post was ridiculous?
You broad-brushed. All music, all Christians.
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03-18-2011, 05:19 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Another *awful* secular song:
Anyway - Martina McBride
You can spend your whole life buildin'
Something from nothin
One storm can come and blow it all away
Build it anyway
You can chase a dream
That seems so out of reach
And you know it might not ever come your way
Dream it anyway
God is great but sometimes life aint good
And when I pray
It doesn't always turn out like I think it should
But I do it anyway
I do it anyway
This worlds gone crazy
And it's hard to believe
That tomorrow will be better than today
Believe it anyway
You can love someone with all YOUR heart
For all the right reasons
And in a moment they can choose to walk away
love em anyway
God is great but sometimes life aint good
And when I pray
It doesn't always turn out like I think it should
But I do it anyway
Yeah I do it anyway, yeah,
You can pour your soul out singin'
A song you believe in
That tomorrow they'll forget you ever sang
Sing it anyway
Yeah sing it anyway, yeah, yeah
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There are oodles and oodles and oodles and OODLES of secular songs with uplifting lyrics. It's simply not true that every secular song promotes sin. I have several cds I've burned of songs I bought from Amazon, cds that I can play when my husband and I have (rare) time alone. Every single song is a positive song about marriage, and real love. And they're all secular. Not a single song about how wonderful adultery is, or looking over the fence. I was amazed by how many great songs I found.
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03-18-2011, 05:21 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Valid points, dismissed as "Conservative bashing"
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Unanswered points at that.
Any time a viewpoint isn't just accepted, it's considered bashing. How about standing up for your viewpoint and explaining why you feel the way you do, instead of just condemning everyone with no explanation?
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03-18-2011, 05:31 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
I think this is an oxymoron statement. I think it's a sin, what do you guys think?
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I haven't read all the posts, and maybe someone brought this up, but why stop at secular? How about let's not listen to any gospel music if it was written by a charismatic trinitarian?
So, only music that is gospel, but written by a Oneness Apostolic.
No instrumental music, either, has to have words. If it's only instrumental, it COULD be secular. So, when you get into the elevator, and the Muzak systems is playing "Rainy Days and Mondays Always Get Me Down" plug your ears.
I pretty much already do that, but for different reasons!
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03-18-2011, 05:54 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I haven't read all the posts, and maybe someone brought this up, but why stop at secular? How about let's not listen to any gospel music if it was written by a charismatic trinitarian?
So, only music that is gospel, but written by a Oneness Apostolic.
No instrumental music, either, has to have words. If it's only instrumental, it COULD be secular. So, when you get into the elevator, and the Muzak systems is playing "Rainy Days and Mondays Always Get Me Down" plug your ears.
I pretty much already do that, but for different reasons! 
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You have some good points.. Maybe I'll pray for more conviction and plug my ears in the elevator like you
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03-18-2011, 07:41 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by iceniez
AMEN ! There are certain songs I just can't listen to now because of what actions they were associated with, mostly like partying [ drinking ] I used to listen to Jimmy Buffet , I can't bring myself to listen to it anymore . I also shy away from music with offensive lyrics.
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You bring up a very good point. Music is a powerful and emotional thing. I know that for me I can hear a song and it will instantly transport me in my mind to situations and circumstances that were going on when it was popular and I was hearing it a lot.
For someone who lived a wild life before the Lord when they hear certain music it may associate in their mind with sinful acts of the past. Not a good place to dwell.
This is one reason I have stated in the past that I believe it can be wrong for one person to listen to a song that it is not wrong for another person. I was raised in church and never went through a rebellious period so I have never used any drugs, been drunk, or did any wild partying. For that reason I can listen to a secular song and enjoy it with no bad associations to the music where someone else may not be able to do that.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-18-2011, 08:20 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms
Christians that listen to wordly music are not christians therefore the statement is a contradiction
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what an arrogant bit of nonsense this is...
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03-18-2011, 09:30 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by CC1
You bring up a very good point. Music is a powerful and emotional thing. I know that for me I can hear a song and it will instantly transport me in my mind to situations and circumstances that were going on when it was popular and I was hearing it a lot.
For someone who lived a wild life before the Lord when they hear certain music it may associate in their mind with sinful acts of the past. Not a good place to dwell.
This is one reason I have stated in the past that I believe it can be wrong for one person to listen to a song that it is not wrong for another person. I was raised in church and never went through a rebellious period so I have never used any drugs, been drunk, or did any wild partying. For that reason I can listen to a secular song and enjoy it with no bad associations to the music where someone else may not be able to do that.
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Funny thing is that this is the very reason I cannot listen to most music I associate with the UPC -it takes me to a very dark place in my life. This is still the reason I always try to show up at any given church late enough to miss all or most of their song service. At the time any music that wasn't OP Southern gospel was thrown into the generic "rock music" category. (Does anyone still use that term anymore?)
While I still have a fondness for 80's POP music my tastes are all over the map. On XM I listen to anything from the 80's station to Spa and Chill.
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03-18-2011, 09:31 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!
It just hit me....I remember a thread that was started in my early days on AFF and it was HometownGuy!! It was the creepiest ultra-con post I've seen to this day! I looked it up and sure enough, it was HTG!!
Check this out!!
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...32&postcount=1
Is HTG one of these alias invention-dudes from someone here? He has to be. No one actually believes this stuff, do they?
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03-18-2011, 09:47 AM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by notofworks
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!
It just hit me....I remember a thread that was started in my early days on AFF and it was HometownGuy!! It was the creepiest ultra-con post I've seen to this day! I looked it up and sure enough, it was HTG!!
Check this out!!
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...32&postcount=1
Is HTG one of these alias invention-dudes from someone here? He has to be. No one actually believes this stuff, do they?
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