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Old 04-05-2011, 08:36 AM
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Re: James Kilgore's Part in the 92 Affirmation Deb

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of2,I know what you mean.............It just frustrates me sometimes when
people talk out of both sides of thier mouth!!!!

Especially ministers............. I've never tried to convince anyone to change
thier view on anything.........

I have sit at dinner tables, meeting tables, etc.... and heard prominient preachers and leaders laugh and joke
about standards and some doctrine......... saying its no big deal............ we just do it to keep the peace..

Then those same get in the pulpit and rail on standards and talk about keeping the old paths..

Makes me want to vomit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes thats sad. It happens because of pressure and I admit its wrong. Sort of like me, I leave someone's salvation to God if they don't speak in tongues, etc. People on this forum portray that an impossibility in regards to UPC views of salvation. Some just need to learn to let a conscience decide the matter for personal beliefs. If these preachers really examined what they believe and why, it would help them decide to stay or decide to leave. Thats what I had to do and while I no longer condemn people for the things I did in the past, I am staying because I can find peace with the beliefs and still uphold my conscience. These men need to also. If they stand in the pulpit and say women go to hell for cutting their hair, they need to believe that. If not, they need to stop saying things that are cookie cutter beliefs that people will say "Amen" to.

Bro. Dillon was approached by a guy who went to JCM who wholeheartedly disagreed with the uncut hair doctrine. He told Bro. Dillon that he doesn't believe it because he doesn't preach it. Bro. Dillon affirmed that he believes the doctrine and quite frequently refers to his wife as to what he believes. But he doesn't condemn and I think thats the part people have trouble with in the UPC or outside the UPC looking in. Everything has to be heaven or hell, sink or swim, white or black. Nothing seems to be able to be church teachings based on the Bible to further please the Lord in our lives. The spirit of the Pharisee isn't just in the UPC, its in every church org in existence in some form.
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