I'm confident in the Lord that; Those who should be saved will be saved. I depend on the Holy Ghost to prompt me to those who I should share the message of the cross.
Therefore I don't burden myself with heavy burdens that interfere with what Jesus is doing. I use to get into the way when I allow my emotions to run ahead of me because I thought at a time in my life I could some how get everybody saved. It tore me apart thinking someone might not make it because I didn't tell them about Jesus.
I now let Jesus lead and bring me into a place where he wants me to be to witness concerning his salvation and plan for those that are his. I realize that not all will be saved many shall reject Jesus and his sacrifice. How shall they exscape who reject such a great sacrifice such as the suffering which our Lord and Savior went through.
"Can the believing husband in Heaven be happy with his unbelieving wife in Hell? Can the believing father in Heaven be happy with his unbelieving children in Hell? Can the loving wife in Heaven be happy with her unbelieving husband in Hell? I tell you, yea! Such will be their sense of justice that it will increase rather than diminish their bliss."
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Men judging God for His justice. This is a work of sin. Yes, those who judge God do so in their carnality, their love of sin, their love of rebellion against God. They want God to be so loving that He allows sin, allows unrighteousness, and they themselves have no personal responsibility before God, thus no judgment or justice by Him. When this happens, God ceases to be God and becomes a spiritual grandfather who overlooks the faults of his grandchildren.
In Heaven, the angels do not declare God is love, love, love. They do not cry out night and day joy, joy, joy. No, regardless of what men want, the angels continually testify night and day that God is holy, holy, holy. Because He is holy, He must hate sin, which by the very nature is contrary to the holiness of God. When sin and God come into the same arena, and mercy and grace do not intervene, judgment is what comes forth. While so many want God to be all inclusive, He Himself has said in His Word through the prophets that no sin shall abide in His presence. The sacrifice of Christ is limited to those who come to Him in repentance and faith.
So, all these folks who want God to be more human, I believe the best response would be to call such to repentance for not accepting what is said about God and His nature in the Bible. Hell is the absolute and fullest manifestation of the judgment of God against sin, and yes, regardless of what men say, it is real.
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-All over the world, I see Apostolic revival and reformation breaking forth. We are seeing the end time dichotomy, both the falling away and great revival. May it continue throughout the lands.
Bro. William M. Price
Men judging God for His justice. This is a work of sin. Yes, those who judge God do so in their carnality, their love of sin, their love of rebellion against God. They want God to be so loving that He allows sin, allows unrighteousness, and they themselves have no personal responsibility before God, thus no judgment or justice by Him. When this happens, God ceases to be God and becomes a spiritual grandfather who overlooks the faults of his grandchildren.
In Heaven, the angels do not declare God is love, love, love. They do not cry out night and day joy, joy, joy. No, regardless of what men want, the angels continually testify night and day that God is holy, holy, holy. Because He is holy, He must hate sin, which by the very nature is contrary to the holiness of God. When sin and God come into the same arena, and mercy and grace do not intervene, judgment is what comes forth. While so many want God to be all inclusive, He Himself has said in His Word through the prophets that no sin shall abide in His presence. The sacrifice of Christ is limited to those who come to Him in repentance and faith.
So, all these folks who want God to be more human, I believe the best response would be to call such to repentance for not accepting what is said about God and His nature in the Bible. Hell is the absolute and fullest manifestation of the judgment of God against sin, and yes, regardless of what men say, it is real.
there is a good book by rc sproul called the Holiness of God. very good gives alot of points that many people do not realize.
he is a baptist calvanist, so you will see some of his beliefs in the book but however its a very good book to read
Men judging God for His justice. This is a work of sin. Yes, those who judge God do so in their carnality, their love of sin, their love of rebellion against God. They want God to be so loving that He allows sin, allows unrighteousness, and they themselves have no personal responsibility before God, thus no judgment or justice by Him. When this happens, God ceases to be God and becomes a spiritual grandfather who overlooks the faults of his grandchildren.
In Heaven, the angels do not declare God is love, love, love. They do not cry out night and day joy, joy, joy. No, regardless of what men want, the angels continually testify night and day that God is holy, holy, holy. Because He is holy, He must hate sin, which by the very nature is contrary to the holiness of God. When sin and God come into the same arena, and mercy and grace do not intervene, judgment is what comes forth. While so many want God to be all inclusive, He Himself has said in His Word through the prophets that no sin shall abide in His presence. The sacrifice of Christ is limited to those who come to Him in repentance and faith.
So, all these folks who want God to be more human, I believe the best response would be to call such to repentance for not accepting what is said about God and His nature in the Bible. Hell is the absolute and fullest manifestation of the judgment of God against sin, and yes, regardless of what men say, it is real.
You know, UT, you talk a lot about sin and rebellion, living in unrighteousness, but refuse to acknowledge that you are living in sin because you're fat. You are a glutton, and you fail to see yourself in your own weakness.
I've pointed this out to you before and you completely ignore your unhealthy and undisciplined lifestyle. As long as you keep sounding off with your self-righteous appeal and avoiding the fact that you are abusing your temple, everything you say that condemns others is condemning you.
In case you didn’t know, this means you are a hypocrite. Stop your ranting and find some mercy in your heart.
Truth is not based on feelings. It's based on what God said. "Well I feel that God is like" is not a valid way of knowing what God is like...if you want to know what God is like, you read what God says
Appealing to emotions is a classic logical fallacy. When people get emotional about a subject they tend to also become subjective, because emotions are subjective. People can hear about someone being arrested for a horrendous murder and based on their emotion feel that person is guilty before even seeing the facts.
In the opening post not one verse was quoted. Instead several attempts to appeal to your emotions, rather than your intellect, was made.
That is the usual UR argument.
Prax, you know as well as I do that the Apostolic Church is drunk on emotion. We use feeling and emotion more than any other Faith, and we are guilty of driving people into a false idea because they "Feel God". People rolling on the ground and screaming is illogical emotion.
If we’re going to attack emotion, let’s go to the nuts and bolts of our Religion, where the abuse of emotion is real.
When God is portrayed as our Father in Scripture, and we are His sons and daughters, I can logically understand this relationship because I've been married for 31 years and have raised 3 children. This type of emotion, centered on love and forgiveness, is what God gave us when He created us.
This is why Hell, in the aspect of torture for Eternity, does not make sense to a father and mother who love their children, even when they fail or make mistakes. I don't understand a Father who would cast His failing children into a caldron of vicious, unending torment because life didn't turn out like they expected.
Prax, you know as well as I do that the Apostolic Church is drunk on emotion. We use feeling and emotion more than any other Faith, and we are guilty of driving people into a false idea because they "Feel God". People rolling on the ground and screaming is illogical emotion.
If we’re going to attack emotion, let’s go to the nuts and bolts of our Religion, where the abuse of emotion is real.
When God is portrayed as our Father in Scripture, and we are His sons and daughters, I can logically understand this relationship because I've been married for 31 years and have raised 3 children. This type of emotion, centered on love and forgiveness, is what God gave us when He created us.
This is why Hell, in the aspect of torture for Eternity, does not make sense to a father and mother who love their children, even when they fail or make mistakes. I don't understand a Father who would cast His failing children into a caldron of vicious, unending torment because life didn't turn out like they expected.
Im not attacking emotions. If that is what you thought, then you never understood either of my two posts.
I appeal to what the bible says about the topic. Universal Reconcilliationists appeal to their feelings. Rather than accepting what the bible says they filter what the bible says and interpret it based on their emotions.
A lot of people have entered into abusive relationships because they went by their feelings and not by objective facts. People can tell them till blue in the fact that relationship is bad for them but because they have these feelings they will not look at the facts or the facts will become colored by how they feel.
Feelings are great, but they can cause us to be subjective rather than objective
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
You know, UT, you talk a lot about sin and rebellion, living in unrighteousness, but refuse to acknowledge that you are living in sin because you're fat. You are a glutton, and you fail to see yourself in your own weakness.
I've pointed this out to you before and you completely ignore your unhealthy and undisciplined lifestyle. As long as you keep sounding off with your self-righteous appeal and avoiding the fact that you are abusing your temple, everything you say that condemns others is condemning you.
In case you didn’t know, this means you are a hypocrite. Stop your ranting and find some mercy in your heart.
notforsale i cannot believe you said this,where is the love ,
NFS, I decided to edit my post. No way should I ever go down to your level. I know I am a big man, but I am no where as big as I once was. I acknowledged my sin and have lost a considerable amount of weight. I openly confessed my sin, and do so again. But, NFS, I will speak the truth, which seems to be very controversial, but so be it.
I guess what I said some time back is following truth. There is a lack of true repentance among some Christianity today. Instead, they prefer silent killing, where people are not told of their sin, their absolutely false doctrine, and their abominations before God, and just declare His love and not His justice, holiness, or truth.
So, NFS, I repent of what I originally wrote, and if you read it, I apologize. But, i will not stay silent.
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-All over the world, I see Apostolic revival and reformation breaking forth. We are seeing the end time dichotomy, both the falling away and great revival. May it continue throughout the lands.
Bro. William M. Price
The above is a perfect example of why UR is a fallacy. It relies not on scriptures but on emotional appeal and personal opinion
Bingo!
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