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Old 06-04-2011, 08:58 AM
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Let's just hope in the future you have more manners towards me than the Mavs had to the Heat in game 2
I like very much how the Mavs treated the arrogant Heat, James and Wade will thing again before celebrating in front of the Dallas bench!!! Hope it continues!!

The Heat's fire, in the 4th, was as allusive as a literal fire in hell.
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crakjak, I never believed in eternal torment, annihilation sounds more merciful and scriptural. How do you feel about annihilation of the wicked and how does annihilation affect UR?
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crakjak, I never believed in eternal torment, annihilation sounds more merciful and scriptural. How do you feel about annihilation of the wicked and how does annihilation affect UR?
I want to know how he feels about God wiping out the world with a flood or Sodom with fire....

How does he feel about God plaguing a nation and making them suffer
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crakjak, I never believed in eternal torment, annihilation sounds more merciful and scriptural. How do you feel about annihilation of the wicked and how does annihilation affect UR?
Annihilation would be more merciful, however, I don't believe God has to do either, because He provided a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.

Prax, God's love and His severity serve the same purpose, which includes temporal judgment, to bring many sons to Glory!!! The same many that became sinners at Adams failure, are the same many that come finally to glory at Jesus' sacrifice. I Tim. 4:10
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Annihilation would be more merciful, however, I don't believe God has to do either, because He provided a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.

Prax, God's love and His severity serve the same purpose, which includes temporal judgment, to bring many sons to Glory!!! The same many that became sinners at Adams failure, are the same many that come finally to glory at Jesus' sacrifice. I Tim. 4:10
God did provide a perfect sacrifice. However he did put a stipulation on that sacrifice.

You must believe on the Only begotten Son of God. God has great Love, and Great mercy, but God is all Just and Holy. and His word states that Those who believe on the Son should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Those who dont believe will be condemed mark 16:16

your false universalist sect. teaches a man can live life in whatever manner and fashion they want. They break the laws and commandments of God and not have to worry about it. They can sin all day, be a drunkard and a gluton, while commiting adultry and have no worry about the destination of thier soul, cause in the end they will be saved also.

This is not bible.
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God did provide a perfect sacrifice. However he did put a stipulation on that sacrifice.

You must believe on the Only begotten Son of God. God has great Love, and Great mercy, but God is all Just and Holy. and His word states that Those who believe on the Son should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Those who dont believe will be condemed mark 16:16

your false universalist sect. teaches a man can live life in whatever manner and fashion they want. They break the laws and commandments of God and not have to worry about it. They can sin all day, be a drunkard and a gluton, while commiting adultry and have no worry about the destination of thier soul, cause in the end they will be saved also.

This is not bible.
In OT times, did people have to believe on the animal, so the sacrifice would work in forgiving their sins?
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In OT times, did people have to believe on the animal, so the sacrifice would work in forgiving their sins?
No, when the high priest offered the blood on the mercy seat, all the sins of all Israel was pushed forward one year.

When Jesus died on the cross His blood was once and for all, for the sins of the whole world. The sin question is resolved, many will not know until death that they are a child of the King, and will therefore have to be tutored in the ways of the King, all evil and wickedness will be removed during this tutorship.
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God did provide a perfect sacrifice. However he did put a stipulation on that sacrifice.

You must believe on the Only begotten Son of God. God has great Love, and Great mercy, but God is all Just and Holy. and His word states that Those who believe on the Son should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Those who dont believe will be condemed mark 16:16

your false universalist sect. teaches a man can live life in whatever manner and fashion they want. They break the laws and commandments of God and not have to worry about it. They can sin all day, be a drunkard and a gluton, while commiting adultry and have no worry about the destination of thier soul, cause in the end they will be saved also.

This is not bible.
I believe no such thing. Every man, woman, and child will be completely accountable in the awesome hands of the living God. Even you and I will require final purging of our ways that are not His ways. His fiery presence will vaporized all that is unlike Him, no evil will persist on that Day!!!

Where you and I disagree is God is the Savior, and not we ourselves. Don't forget the prodigal, the lost coin, and the lost sheep, each one was found.
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In OT times, did people have to believe on the animal, so the sacrifice would work in forgiving their sins?
Better yet,how was Davids sins forgiven,ever read of him going to the Temple?
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