Are today's current male shorts modest? You know the ones that go past your knees? Sure. I would not be offended.
I think you guys on both sides take information a skew it.
yes , but the ladies ? Not a chance .
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LOL the point was, when that "doctrine" came about of teaching to no wear shorts, they were the extremely short Shorts. We are not talking knee length, we are talking where the male genitalia is almost on display. That was the sports attire of the early to late 40's.
Are today's current male shorts modest? You know the ones that go past your knees? Sure. I would not be offended.
I think you guys on both sides take information a skew it.
Good post. Everyone here knows what it means to be modest as it applies to them personally. Do that and you'll be fine. Look for loopholes based on the letter of the law vs the spirit of it, and you'll go off course.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
That was my whole point. Ladies now days wearing shorts with the backsides hanging out!
Other then the bible specifically stating the separation of men and women's garments; and that of the demand of modesty, anything else could be considered pharisee-acle.
In my opinion the way you should dress should be answered in such manner.
1) Does it represent the my Gender?
2) Is it considered modest to myself?
3) Can it be a stumbling block to cause others to sin? (lust, envy, strife)
That is the basic biblical teachings. Anything else is man made, super imposed restrictions.
I found this on a site, I visit quite often. Just did the ole' copy and paste...meaning I did not write this! :-) Here's a link to the site! http://www.whyileft.org
Many churches in the UPC teach that men should not wear shorts. In my experience the only Scriptural backing that is given for this doctrine is this Scripture passage:
Isa 47:1-3 KJV
(1) Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
(2) Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.
(3) Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.
I have already discussed this passage in my article on Misinterpreted Scriptures, so in this article I am simply going to repeat the material that I have already written in that article:
Misinterpretation: The UPC often uses this Scripture to try to prove that it is wrong for men to wear shorts or for women to wear skirts above the knee.
Facts: If this Scripture is teaching that men cannot wear shorts then it is also teaching that women cannot remove their veils. Let’s take a closer look at the Scripture to see what I mean.
To understand this Scripture we must look at what the phrase "uncover thy locks" means. "Uncover thy locks" means "remove the veil." Here is how several mainstream English translations render Isaiah 47:2 (I have included Young’s Literal Translation, since many UPC pastors use this translation for study):
Isa 47:2 YLT (Young’s Literal Translation)
(2) Take millstones, and grind flour, Remove thy veil, draw up the skirt, Uncover the leg, pass over the floods.
Isa 47:2 NASB
(2) "Take the millstones and grind meal. Remove your veil, strip off the skirt, Uncover the leg, cross the rivers.
Isa 47:2 ESV
(2) Take the millstones and grind flour, put off your veil, strip off your robe, uncover your legs, pass through the rivers.
Isa 47:2 GNB
(2) Turn the millstone! Grind the flour! Off with your veil! Strip off your fine clothes! Lift up your skirts to cross the streams!
Isa 47:2 JPS (Jewish Translation of the Old Testament)
(2) Take the millstones, and grind meal; remove thy veil, strip off the train, uncover the leg, pass through the rivers.
I included these five mainstream English translations because I want to show that the common rendering of the verse is "remove your veil," and that it is not a translation that I came up with on my own. My point is this: If this verse proves that it is immodest for a person to wear shorts or skirts above the knee then it also proves that it is immodest for women to remove their veils.
It is clear that there is no basis for using this Scripture to try to prove that shorts are immodest on men or women. The UPC teaching that says that men should not wear shorts is a great example of the common UPC practice of pulling one Scripture out of context and using it to create a doctrine that it was never meant to teach. The simple fact of the matter is that the Bible never even hints that shorts are immodest on men or women.
Last edited by unitedpraise10; 06-17-2011 at 01:43 PM.
True....won't go into detail, but yeah I can pull my pants way up and make them immodest. lolol
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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