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Old 01-23-2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: The Second Coming of Christ

kbtw,

When we study 1 Cor 15 (the moment we are ALL changed, whether dead or alive (which means it has to all happen at once)), that chapter does not speak about catching away. So the context there does not say if we are caught away at the same time from the world. But the point of all being changed at once, whether dead or alive, is raised again in 1 Thess 4. THERE is where it says we will be caught away from this world physically, at the same time. Now, the CHANGE is in a moment, but it did not say in 1 thess 4 that the CATCHING AWAY is in a twinkling of an eye.

Compare:
1Co 15:50-52 KJV Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Th 4:15-17 KJV For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

THE TRUMP is mentioned in both 1 Cor 15 and 1 Thess 4. It is one and the same trumpet. It involves BOTH DEAD AND LIVING saints to be CHANGED at the same time, and is when the dead rise first AND THEN THE LIVING ARE CAUGHT UP. The change in a twinkling of an eye is not the catching away. The catching away is NOT DONE in the twinkling of an eye. Who knows how long we will be here AFTER WE ARE CHANGED? It cannot be long, though,l but it is not the twinkling of an eye that sees us gone. All we know about being caught up physically is found in 1 Thess 4. And there we read that the dead rise first and then the living are caught up to be WITH THEM. All of us at the SAME TIME MEET THE LORD. But even meeting the Lord is not done in the twinkling of an eye.

Summary:

1) THE CHANGING OF OUR BODIES, whether dead or alive occurs in the twinkling of an eye at the same time for everyone.

2) The DEAD RISE or are CAUGHT AWAY FIRST, though.

3) THE LIVING are then caught up AFTER THE DEAD RISE, to be with the resurrected dead IN THE AIR TO MEET THE LORD.

So it IS explained in scripture,. but we just have to look at all the passages which are 1 Cor 15 and 1 Thess 4 to see it all.
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