First Post as The Pastor's Coach

[ThePastorsCoach]

Let me give you a solution to the problem. Pray for your Church, your Pastor, the ministry, how you can help, what you can do to be a blessing, how much you can give to see the Kingdom of God advanced. Don't listen to doubt filled, rebellious people with a spirit of Jezebel that tear the church and pastor and people down. Be FAITHFUL Spiritually, Physically and Financially to your local Church and don't be a HINDRANCE!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by ThePastorsCoach

While you may attract a big amen from the rebellious and non-faithful on here, your statement is simply not true. How many churches have you pastored?
I can tell you first hand after planting five in the US, that the problem is unfaithful, wishy washy, church hopping, non-givers, non-volunteers, trouble makers, gossipers, busy bodies and people that despise authority are the PROBLEM.
I want to ask some folks - Why change Churches - just remain unfaithful where you are now!

You're attempting to label those who don't buy into your manmade church system as rebellious, non-faithful and trouble makers. You obviously don't have the understanding nor do you have the desire for understanding that your building based, professional preacher based, organization based system isn't the NT church system. I know it's how you earn your living, what you do for money and if the 'church' you're a part of was taken away, it would adversely affect you, therefore I understand your displeasure with those who do not follow your system.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Pastors today are faced with more work, more problems, and more stress than any other time in the history of the church. This is taking a frightening toll on the ministry, shown by these statistics:

85% of pastors today say they have no one to talk with about their personal lives and ministry

Eighty-five percent of pastors said their greatest problem is they are sick and tired of dealing with problem people, such as disgruntled elders, deacons, worship leaders, worship teams, board members, and associate pastors. Ninety percent said the hardest thing about ministry is dealing with uncooperative people.

Remember the wisdom of the apostles in Acts chapter six. They found that they weren't able to spend the time they needed in prayer and Bible study, because of the demands of the ministry.
People will take your time and make demands on you and then leave you in a heartbeat. Pastors, Give your Time, Efforts and Energies to your Family. They will stick with you when the gossips, trouble makers and VDP's (Very Draining People) have left!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by ThePastorsCoach

Pastors today are faced with more work, more problems, and more stress than any other time in the history of the church. This is taking a frightening toll on the ministry, shown by these statistics:

85% of pastors today say they have no one to talk with about their personal lives and ministry

Eighty-five percent of pastors said their greatest problem is they are sick and tired of dealing with problem people, such as disgruntled elders, deacons, worship leaders, worship teams, board members, and associate pastors. Ninety percent said the hardest thing about ministry is dealing with uncooperative people.

Remember the wisdom of the apostles in Acts chapter six. They found that they weren't able to spend the time they needed in prayer and Bible study, because of the demands of the ministry.
People will take your time and make demands on you and then leave you in a heartbeat. Pastors, Give your Time, Efforts and Energies to your Family. They will stick with you when the gossips, trouble makers and VDP's (Very Draining People) have left!

The main reason the pastors and religious professionals are so stressed today isn't because of the NT church system, it's because they're part of a manmade church system.

The so-called 'church' system today is built on performance and money, bigger buildings, bigger congregations to build even bigger buildings, state of the art sound systems, the latest multimedia, light shows, performances, so-called 'revivals', professional fund raisers to elicit even more money out of the laity, staying ahead of the 'church' across town, board meetings, finance meetings, budget meetings, and on and on and on. It's no wonder pastors are stressed, the laity suffering and mimicking the power of God.

For the professional religious person, such as yourself, it's essential to live in this system with all it's pressure, but for the person who' following the example of the NT church system, you'll not find such problems. The professional religious person has little choice, I understand that, it's their living. How they pay their bills.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The main reason the pastors and religious professionals are so stressed today isn't because of the NT church system, it's because they're part of a manmade church system.

I have to disagree with you.

While it may be a "profession" for some, I am 100% convinced that for the VAST MAJORITY of our Holy Spirit-filled Pastors, their decision to serve in the ministry began with a calling from God to dedicate their life.

The reason why they are stressed in large part is due to a lack of proper support from their own congregations and from the people they hold themselves accountable to.

The New Testament account does not dictate exactly how Christians should gather, but only that they do gather and that it be done orderly.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I have to disagree with you.

While it may be a "profession" for some, I am 100% convinced that for the VAST MAJORITY of our Holy Spirit-filled Pastors, their decision to serve in the ministry began with a calling from God to dedicate their life.

The reason why they are stressed in large part is due to a lack of proper support from their own congregations and from the people they hold themselves accountable to.

The New Testament account does not dictate exactly how Christians should gather, but only that they do gather and that it be done orderly.

I disagree. It's the inherent nature of the building-based religious system, with the religious system having brainwashed the laity to such an extent they began calling a building a 'church' or the 'house of God when it's in fact neither. Attempt to find the 'church' system that's prevalent today in the NT. It's not there. And yes, the NT does dictate how the body of Christ should gather.

Act 20:20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house,

Tragically, the NT system will never be popular because of the professional religious individuals who earn their living by the man made 'church' system of today.

[ThePastorsCoach]

These statistics came from across denomination lines, and have been gleaned from various reliable sources such as Pastor to Pastor, Focus on the Family, Ministries Today, Charisma Magazine, TNT Ministries, Campus Crusade for Christ and the Global Pastors Network.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I disagree. It's the inherent nature of the building-based religious system, with the religious system having brainwashed the laity to such an extent they began calling a building a 'church' or the 'house of God when it's in fact neither. Attempt to find the 'church' system that's prevalent today in the NT. It's not there. And yes, the NT does dictate how the body of Christ should gather.

Act 20:20 how I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house,

Tragically, the NT system will never be popular because of the professional religious individuals who earn their living by the man made 'church' system of today.

Publicly and from house to house leaves a lot of options for us. Are churches not open to the public?


There is some truth to the idea that churches and leadership can become more focussed on money and building programs and even politics at the expense of being Gospel focsued.

That doesn't mean that planting and building a church and ministry, training and developing leadership for ministry and establishing leadership support for the church leadership are unbiblical things to do.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

For a little extra, inside the truck I got a blue haired granny, with her hair stacked up 7 feet high to lay hands on you and holler in one ear, "Hold On"... and her gal pal on the other side hollering, "let it go"... all while hammond B3 is blairing in the back ground.... that's our Apostolic package.

Seven feet high eh? That ought to break her neck.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I have to disagree with you.

While it may be a "profession" for some, I am 100% convinced that for the VAST MAJORITY of our Holy Spirit-filled Pastors, their decision to serve in the ministry began with a calling from God to dedicate their life.

The reason why they are stressed in large part is due to a lack of proper support from their own congregations and from the people they hold themselves accountable to.

The New Testament account does not dictate exactly how Christians should gather, but only that they do gather and that it be done orderly.

Jermyn, This is a great post and so true. It is rare to find a Pastor, Evangelist or Missionary that Ministry is a "profession". I have in my 40 years of ministry only met a couple that was that way and have met many thousands that Ministry is a calling from God.

Let's Pray for our Pastors that God will bless them and honor them for their Kingdom work and the sacrifice they make to bring the Word of the Lord to the People of God! It is a privilege to serve the people of God and to bring help to hurting people. I am thankful for being called and ordained into the ministry from a young age and this is all I have ever wanted to do. I honor men and women that give their lives to minister to a lost world that needs Jesus Christ.